UGLY: Road rage leads to high-speed chase and shootout in east Orange County

This is a discussion on UGLY: Road rage leads to high-speed chase and shootout in east Orange County within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by cvhoss I hope you're right. From the article: It's possible that these were all misdemeanors and since they are all more than ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvhoss View Post
    I hope you're right. From the article:

    It's possible that these were all misdemeanors and since they are all more than 5 years ago, they still could have had valid Florida CCWs.

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    Possible. I found it encouraging that no mention of the CCW's was made in the article, nor on the local tv news last night though.....

    Just lookin' for a small silver lining to this nasty cloud, I guess.

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    Wow, just because he could not pass. unreal.

    If someone wants to pass me, I just pull to the side and let them go. Nothing to get mad about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David in FL View Post
    Possible. I found it encouraging that no mention of the CCW's was made in the article, nor on the local tv news last night though.....

    Just lookin' for a small silver lining to this nasty cloud, I guess.
    I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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    First news report...

    Sheriff's reports show that deputies recovered a 45 calibre Taurus semi-automatic and a 38 calibre Keltec automatic. Davis and Vilchez had valid permits to carry a concealed weapon, Padilla said.
    I hope this report is wrong, but...that was what they first reported.
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    Prize idiots.

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    File under: "What the hell were they thinking??"
    I don't understand road rage, like it was said earlier just let them pass, there's more idiots out there that ever before, your not gonna stop them, let them go about their business, maybe you'll see them in a ditch later ahead...(at least in snowy Michigan..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLarson View Post
    According to the Orlando Sentinel, both drivers have been charged with attempted murder, shooting into an occupied vehicle, discharging a firearm in public and aggravated child abuse.

    2 drivers charged after gunfire blamed on road rage -- OrlandoSentinel.com

    Morons.

    I expect some hefty prison terms for these Mensa candidates.

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    How about a charge of child endangerment or neglect by the father????

    Too bad they'll never see any penalty from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XD in SC View Post
    How about a charge of child endangerment or neglect by the father????

    Too bad they'll never see any penalty from it.
    Actually, the father's been charged with aggravated child abuse!

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    Put em both in the same Cell and toss in a butter knife and walk away.

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    The whole incident speaks to a larger issue with have in this country, and that is aggressive driving and road rage. Every day I'm on the road I encounter aggressive drivers. They tailgate, they speed, they dangerously weave through traffic, and cut people off, etc. It's only a matter of time before the guy trying to run everyone off the road in his Jeep Cherokee runs into a rageaholic. Things deteriorate from there.

    I do believe law enforcement agencies are targeting these drivers, but it is still an epidemic. There should be special LEO's in civilian-looking vehicles fighting this. People need to start getting huge fines for first offenses, and revocation of license for second. Aggressive driving should be punished severely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arverni View Post
    The whole incident speaks to a larger issue with have in this country ...
    Which is simply another example of the one of the largest failures of contemporary society: an eroding sense of personal responsibility. It shows in all aspects of life, from business deals to relationships, from shopping to cleaning up after one's self. It's going from bad to worse, in many areas. Road "rage" is just another typical example.
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    Last year, here in Colo., we had a road rage incident that started the same way as this one.

    Moron passes another guy who was driving too slow for him [the moron] and then [the moron] slams on his brakes in front of the guy he just passed, causing him [the guy who was passed] to veer across the median and have a head on with a third vehicle.

    Two deaths. Sadly, the moron survived.

    Almost immediately, they find out that the moron was a known aggressive driver who had lost his license for same.

    He was convicted on two counts of first degree murder.

    He will be sentenced this April. He's looking at two life sentences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenInColo View Post
    He's looking at two life sentences.
    Is the death penalty not a possibility in Colorado?

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    Quote Originally Posted by falcon1 View Post
    Is the death penalty not a possibility in Colorado?
    Yes, you can be sentenced to death in Colo. for first-degree murder with at least 1 of 17 aggravating factors, some of which are:

    • victim was a peace officer
    • defendant was in prison for class 1, 2 or 3 felony
    • murder committed with an explosive device
    • victim was a hostage or kidnapped
    • victim was ambushed
    • it was a 'contract hit'
    • victim was killed in a particularly heinous manner


    And if the aggravating factors are not outweighed by any mitigating factors such as:

    • defendant's age
    • defendant's mental capacity
    • unusual and substantial distress the defendant may have been under


    The State got the first degree charge based on the fact that a reasonable person would have known that intentionally cutting off another vehicle and slamming on his brakes could have led to serious injury or death. His driving record probably didn't help him either.

    I guess the State couldn't find any aggravating factors.

    When the defendant found out that the guy he was tailgaiting was dead he said "He got what he deserved."

    The defendant had been reported something like 6 times for aggressive driving and sent at least three warning letters by the Colo State Patrol. In his murder trial, his lawyer simply brushed this off by saying that it could not be proved that his client was behind the wheel when his vehicle was reported to the CSP.
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