LEO Shoots High School Thug in Self Defense

This is a discussion on LEO Shoots High School Thug in Self Defense within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; I think the officer was 100% justified in this situation. Anybody who was assaulted by a large BG carrying a weapon (of any kind) would ...

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    I think the officer was 100% justified in this situation. Anybody who was assaulted by a large BG carrying a weapon (of any kind) would probably defend themselves any way they could.

    For whatever reason people try and diffuse blame when the bad guy is a teenager, which is a load of tripe. At 17 I was working a volunteer job with the fire department, going to college and working part time jobs. 17 is old enough to know what's right, what's wrong, and what to expect when you assault an armed LEO.

    I'm sorry that there's any question in regards to if he did the right thing.

    I'm also sorry he got bonked on the head.
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    This happened in my 'back yard'. Roosevelt is a large blue collar school. I did not teach there, but I had taught in the (Fresno Unified) school district. I quit teaching high school, to a large extent, because of the loss of support from the parents, the attitudes have shifted slowly over the years from support for the teacher to one of apathy toward the value of an education. When I went to High school in Fresno, there were no LEOs on campus (early 70's), now there is one assigned to each high school - they are called resource personnel. I wish they were not needed on campus, but sadly these days they are.

    When the parent said that the response of the officer was not justified, it makes one cringe inside. No values, no sense of decency, a parent said 'not justified'...

    If this tragedy goes the way society has evolved, the parents will recieve an undisclosed settlement. This is corrosive on society as it sends the message, bad behavior will be compensated - no matter what.

    The only 'good' I can see coming out of this is the chilling effect it will have on the most radical students who believe there are no consequences to outrageous behavior - because of being under age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBS View Post
    Silvia Carrillo, whose daughter is a sophomore at Roosevelt High, said the shooting did not seem justified.

    "My son and my brother went to school here too, and nothing like this ever happened. I think this wasn't enough for him to kill the kid," she said.
    Is she serious?? I guess the officer should have waited until the kid smacked him 3 or 4 more times with that bat in order to REALLY determine if he was in danger of his life. Here's your sign lady.

    Kudos to this officer for having a bug and having trained to put himself in aposition to employ it when the stakes were about to turn against him.

    This officer was faced with a deadly threat and he answered it with an appropriate response.
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    God Bless the PD. Chief Dyer is a great leader.

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    Originally Posted by GBS
    Silvia Carrillo, whose daughter is a sophomore at Roosevelt High, said the shooting did not seem justified.

    "My son and my brother went to school here too, and nothing like this ever happened. I think this wasn't enough for him to kill the kid," she said.
    I think she needs somebody to smack her in the head with a bat while she's holding a pistol with blanks and see how many hits it takes before she pulls the trigger,MORON
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    Quote Originally Posted by GBS View Post
    The only 'good' I can see coming out of this is the chilling effect it will have on the most radical students who believe there are no consequences to outrageous behavior - because of being under age.
    I actually made a very similar situation to a friend today. Hopefully some good comes out of this somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    I think she needs somebody to smack her in the head with a bat while she's holding a pistol with blanks and see how many hits it takes before she pulls the trigger,MORON
    Haha. Yes, blanks. I like it. She doesn't deserve real bullets for a comment as retarded as the one she made to the press.

    I'm sorry, but swinging a baseball bat at a human head is enough for you to be shot over and over until you stop swinging the bat. Period.

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    im glad he shot that stupid punk.
    how did his mag fall out of his gun?
    lucky he had a bug.
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    Of course if the student (now dead) had hit the daughter of the mother (who thought the shooting was unjustified) with a bat, mommy wouldnt be able to sue the school fast enough for not protecting her baby. In fact her daughters life may have been saved by the LEO, a thought that will NEVER cross her brilliant mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormbringerr View Post
    how did his mag fall out of his gun?
    lucky he had a bug.
    A concrete example of how extra magazines and/or a backup weapon can make all the difference, I'd say.
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    Silvia Carrillo, whose daughter is a sophomore at Roosevelt High, said the shooting did not seem justified.

    "My son and my brother went to school here too, and nothing like this ever happened. I think this wasn't enough for him to kill the kid," she said.


    Stupid is becoming more common.

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    [QUOTE=flagflyfish;696488]Silvia Carrillo, whose daughter is a sophomore at Roosevelt High, said the shooting did not seem justified.

    "My son and my brother went to school here too, and nothing like this ever happened. I think this wasn't enough for him to kill the kid," she said.

    Isn't it just like our liberal media to find SOMEONE to say the shooting was not justified...She was not a witness, did not know the people involved, but somehow she ends up in the story....The story did not need that last little bit at all...but they ALWAYS have to throw that twist in there....pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    A concrete example of how extra magazines and/or a backup weapon can make all the difference, I'd say.
    Agreed.

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    I am actually happy this loser scumbag is off the streets for good.

    If he could do this to a police officer, imagine what he would do to a civilian.

    Should have stomped a mudhole in him afterwards just for good measure

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    A concrete example of how extra magazines and/or a backup weapon can make all the difference, I'd say.
    And a high quality holster. My mag would never fall out of my holster.
    That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?

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