Man's arm almost severed by alleged gas thief

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    Man's arm almost severed by alleged gas thief

    Man's arm almost severed by alleged gas thief

    By ROCHELLE E.B. GILKEN

    Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

    Thursday, April 24, 2008

    WEST PALM BEACH Steven Hand's arm was nearly severed when he tried to protect himself from a machete-wielding man angry that Hand spotted him stealing gas, police said.

    Hand, of Lantana, was driving in the 300 block of Maddock Street on Wednesday when he saw a man siphoning gas from a parked car. Hand yelled that he was going to call the police and kept driving.

    When he got to the next intersection, the man pulled up next to him in a car, got out and raised the machete over his head. Hand raised his arms to protect himself and the weapon sliced him below his left forearm, police said.

    He was listed in good condition Thursday night at St. Mary's Medical Center.

    Police responded to the scene, and Hand described the attacker and his vehicle. Elmer Lopez Ramirez, 36, was stopped a few blocks away, and police found a bloody machete in the car.

    Ramirez could not explain what happened in the altercation, police said. He was charged with attempted murder.
    It is going to be interesting as idiots and criminals (I repeat myself?) get more desperate.

    Guy should have brought a gun to a machete-fight.
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    Instead of raising his hand, he should have punched the gas and got out of there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadeye72 View Post
    Instead of raising his hand, he should have punched the gas and got out of there.
    If Hand would of punched the gas with his hand he would of hurt his hand also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadeye72 View Post
    Instead of raising his hand, he should have punched the gas and got out of there.
    Bingo.

    My first thought exactly.
    Forward, reverse, anywhere but there.

    A gun is pretty much useless when the arm controlling the hand thats holding it is cut off. :(

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    Hand was nearly disarmed because he was unarmed. *sigh*

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    Elmer Lopez Ramirez, 36,
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    What's the point in warning him that you're going to call the cops?

    Just call the cops and be on your way.
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    Sounds like crystal meth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whyipackmy45 View Post
    What's the point in warning him that you're going to call the cops?

    Just call the cops and be on your way.
    Yup.

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    Agreed, avoidance would have been much better. Worst case, just remember you're at the controls of a 2000+ lb device that kills many more people each year than those evil, eeeeevil guns!
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    Hmm, note to self, do not confront man with large knife about stealing gas from someone's car.

    This is one I do agree with the idea of being a good witness and calling the appropriate authorities. No perons is in danger of loosing life or limb, and it isn't my property that is being messed with.
    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whyipackmy45 View Post
    What's the point in warning him that you're going to call the cops?

    Just call the cops and be on your way.
    Too many busy bodies down here sticking their noses where it don't belong/know it alls. Hopefully he learned a lesson; If you're going to react to a crime, be prepared to meet deadly force with deadly force or shut the *beep* up and duck

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