BAD: "Any delivery is the potential for a robbery." Portsmouth, VA

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    BAD: "Any delivery is the potential for a robbery." Portsmouth, VA

    WTKR NewsChannel 3: News, Weather and Traffic in Hampton Roads and North Carolina | "Any delivery is the potential for a robbery."

    Portsmouth (VA) police say 50-year-old Robert Kiesewetter, of Portsmouth, was shot and killed late Friday night while making a delivery.

    "Any delivery driver that either gets robbed, hurt or especially murdered we feel a little bit angry about it because it could have easily been us," said Steven Savage, the Hampton Roads representative of the American Union of Pizza Delivery Drivers.

    Savage BELIEVES the person that shot and killed Kiesewetter was trying to rob him of his cash.

    "Any delivery is the potential for a robbery so you should never let your guard down," said Savage.

    Portsmouth police don't have anyone in custody.

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    "Any delivery is the potential for a robbery so you should never let your guard down," said Savage."

    Unfortunately that is very true. Having a weapon may not have saved his life, but it may well have. I think it is time for all families of any type of delivery drive to hold companys accountable if they refuse to allow drivers to go armed. If your robed, injured or killed the company should be held liable for damages, lost wages, medical bills for the victem, as well as counselling of the family. Maybe when they start getting hit where it counts (profits) they will wake up!

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    Quite true. There are many instances where employers place their employees in harm's way for the sake of profits. Take convienience store clerks pulling the graveyard (how appropriate is that name?). Anyone with a CWP should be allowed to carry on the job. If it becomes generally known that SOME employees in a profession may be armed such knowledge would be a deterrent to all but the most desperate of aggressors.

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    Having escape Portsmouth just a few years ago I'm interested in where this happened.
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    Just read an updated article, that is the exact block my ex-wife used to live on with my kids. I am NOT surprised at all.
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    I won't be ordering Pizza Hut pizza anymore, since they fired the driver that successfully defended himself. In doing so they also drew a nice target on the back of many of their drivers, since it's out there now that they aren't allowed to carry.

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    WTH, they don't have anyone in custody? What about the person that ordered the pizza? That would be the first person to look at.

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    Somebody should have Vonnie Walbert, from Pizza Hut, call this man's family and explain to them that it was better for everyone that he wasn't carrying a gun to defend himself and was killed, at least the robber wasn't hurt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    "Any delivery is the potential for a robbery so you should never let your guard down," said Savage."
    Any exchange with people you don't know holds a potential for robbery, or worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfack View Post
    WTH, they don't have anyone in custody? What about the person that ordered the pizza? That would be the first person to look at.
    I was thinking that myself.
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    Does anyone know for which pizza place the victim worked, or did I miss it? Either way, I agree that Pizza Hut should have this story emailed to them about two-hundred thousand or more times over the next several days....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Free American View Post
    Having escape Portsmouth just a few years ago I'm interested in where this happened.
    Yes, I also escaped the land of enchanted beggars a few years ago. Churchland, Craneybrook apartments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfack View Post
    WTH, they don't have anyone in custody? What about the person that ordered the pizza? That would be the first person to look at.
    The call was probably made from a stolen cell phone.

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    Maybe it was just really bad pizza?
    The dirtbags doing this value nothing...could have been for a few dollars or bad pizza...
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    paramedic...those are the apartments the shooting happened at. 5600 block is the section closest to Churchland Academy. God pray you DID NOT know my ex wife. She was after all a crackhead.
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