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    Weapons Safety Instructor's Gun Goes Off During Class
    Tuesday, May 20, 2008

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    NEW BEDFORD, Mass. — A firearms instructor in southern Massachusetts has been assigned to other duties after his gun accidentally went off while he was teaching a class on weapons safety.

    Officials say the Glock handgun discharged while Maj. Donald Lamar was demonstrating to Bristol County deputy sheriffs how to safely holster the weapon.

    The bullet ripped a hole in Lamar's pants but missed his leg and foot.

    Sheriff Thomas Hodgson says the officer made a "gross error in judgment" by not emptying the weapon before the class last week.

    Lamar, a certified firearms instructor since 2005, was transferred to another division and will not carry a firearm while the incident is being investigated.

    Mods move this if you need to. Maybe under humor. I place it under good since no one got shot.
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    I'm thinking he was showing them what happens if you don't properly holster you're gun
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    Why is the subject labeled "Good" ;-) ?

    I guess you should never stop learning and paying attention. Its probably like driving a car. Didn't they say that most accidents don't happen after you drive for a year and start getting careless?

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    got to say it before someone beats me to it....

    wonder if he use to work for the ATF?
    Also did he happen to say he was the only one in the room qualified to handle that weapon?
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    ...sounds like he's going to need a new pair of uniform trousers, because of the bullet hole in the leg...and the large brown stain in the seat...
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    it seems peculiar to me that Glocks are always involved in such incident and seems always in reholstering. yup, even if your finger is not on the trigger, the trigger can still get snagged on reholstering and fire the weapon. I wonder if this also happens with sig sauers or other pistols w/o a flickable safety.

    I like and shoot Glocks;they are superbly made/designed. however, i have a healthy respect for the fact that it does not have a flickable safety.
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    Raider: You may be on to something. I am still in the "try different carry positions" phase. The last couple days I moved it from 4-5 o'clock to 2 o'clock partially for that reason. I didn't feel comfortable reholstering without being able to see the trigger. I did try with an unloaded Glock to see if the trigger could get pulled by piece of shirt or so getting caught in it. Haven't managed to get this working, but it just didn't feel safe. If you see the holster, you at least have a chance to remove any obstruction. I can see in a classroom setting, he may have been re-holstering while focusing on the class.

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    Simply a lesson well learned... and taught even better. This shows us that even as an instructor or a long time shooter, you can never ever allow yourself to become complacent.
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    Sheriff Thomas Hodgson says the officer made a "gross error in judgment" by not emptying the weapon before the class last week.
    Wow. Was using live rounds in a firearms safety course (though, it's unknown what the course entailed). Finished up a class and didn't check. Started a new class and didn't check. It was bound to happen, then, at some point. Nice to see that he recognizes the basic error. Luckily, nobody was harmed.
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    Officials say the Glock handgun discharged while Maj. Donald Lamar was demonstrating to Bristol County deputy sheriffs how to safely holster the weapon.
    WOW...
    I'll bet thats a lesson that the Deputys will never forget...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulJ View Post
    Why is the subject labeled "Good" ;-) ?
    In my opinion it's because 1) He's been reassigned and 2) They've taken his pistol away from him.

    Geeeez, what a dimwit. I hope they paid no attention to him.


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    There is an incredibly high overwhelming percentage of Glock firearms carried/used in Law Enforcement which might help to explain why a Glock firearm always seems to be involved.


    Quote Originally Posted by Raider39a View Post
    it seems peculiar to me that Glocks are always involved in such incident and seems always in reholstering. yup, even if your finger is not on the trigger, the trigger can still get snagged on reholstering and fire the weapon. I wonder if this also happens with sig sauers or other pistols w/o a flickable safety.

    I like and shoot Glocks;they are superbly made/designed. however, i have a healthy respect for the fact that it does not have a flickable safety.
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    When holstering your semi-auto handgun, put your thumb (of the hand that's holding the gun) on the rear of the slide. Then, as you insert the gun into the holster, simply apply thumb pressure to the rear of the slide.

    If the trigger is somehow being pulled, the hammer will push back against your thumb. That forces you to not put any more downforce on the slide since the hammer is pushing back up against your thumb. That change in feel just might prevent an unintended discharge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    There is an incredibly high overwhelming percentage of Glock firearms carried/used in Law Enforcement which might help to explain why a Glock firearm always seems to be involved.
    Really? Are you sure its not because of the way its designed? Maybe that will, quote: "help to explain why a Glock firearm always seems to be involved". End quote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivers View Post
    When holstering your semi-auto handgun, put your thumb (of the hand that's holding the gun) on the rear of the slide. Then, as you insert the gun into the holster, simply apply thumb pressure to the rear of the slide.

    If the trigger is somehow being pulled, the hammer will push back against your thumb. That forces you to not put any more downforce on the slide since the hammer is pushing back up against your thumb. That change in feel just might prevent an unintended discharge.
    Why not just remove your finger from the trigger?
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