This is bad.
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Unarmed victims beaten, burned to death
Firearms Control Act forbids gun ownership, results in cold-blooded murder
An outbreak of xenophobic violence, also known as ethnic cleansing, has resulted in the murders of 56 people and forced thousands more to take shelter in camps, community halls and churches across South Africa – the victims are foreigners who are strictly forbidden from owning guns.
Foreigners in Gauteng Province are suffering from gunshot and stab wounds, while many others have been raped, fatally beaten and burned alive.
Thomas Eastes, national chairman of Gun Owners of South Africa, said foreigners are unable to defend themselves from such atrocities because they are not allowed to be armed in South Africa. He believes the rise in crime and chaos is chiefly a result of the Firearms Control Act passed by the South African Parliament.
"Arming foreigners and as many citizens in South Africa will surely provide an equal opportunity of survival for all," Eastes said. "The weak, the marginalised, the oppressed and frail have a chance of survival if they are armed. I believe that firearm ownership places great responsibility on people but also enables foreigners and legal citizens not to live in fear."
Approximately 22,000 people are murdered annually in the country for being of another race, Eastes said. Some are killed because they own cars or $5 cell phones.
"Five-year-old babies are raped and sodomised as a perceived traditional remedy for curing AIDS," he said. "Women are objects of abuse, and our children are badly neglected every day. People are tortured and murdered to set examples and create fear. This is what communism thrives on."
Foreigners from Zimbabwe escape to South Africa to avoid state bloodshed, terror, persecution, kidnapping and starvation. More than 15,000 refugees have been displaced by state violence since the end of March. Zimbabwean Collen Makumbirofa of the Foundation of Reason and Justice said the situation is shocking as the foreigners flee President Robert Mugabe's atrocities.
"Millions of Zimbabweans are being starved into submission by Mugabe's government," he said. "Mugabe has lost support of the majority of Zimbabweans, therefore is clinging onto power by terrorism. Tens of thousands of Zimbabweans have been tortured by Mugabe's secret police, militias, soldiers and war veterans."
The South African government is refusing to offer Zimbabwe refugees adequate protection. It stopped processing asylum permits in Johannesburg and shut down Home Affairs Offices. Corrupt officials seize goods belonging to foreigners, demand sex from immigrant women and refuse to apprehend criminals who murder unarmed victims. Commercial farms that belong to whites have been invaded, looted and destroyed by militias unleashed by the state. Makumbirofa said white farmers have been tortured and murdered.
"Xenophobic South Africans see the police arresting and abusing foreigners on a daily basis therefore by doing violence they are also helping the African Nation Congress' efforts to eliminate foreigners," he said. "The police don't do anything or they release the criminal on a bribe. Police are also biased against foreigners who report crimes against South Africans; therefore, there is no justice and respect of human rights."
Makumbirofa places blame on South African President Thabo Mbeki for being a strong supporter of Mugabe's dictatorship.
"Many South Africans hate foreigners, especially Zimbabweans," he said. "President Mbeki supports President Mugabe in Zimbabwe, who is murdering, starving and torturing people who did not vote for him in the March 29 presidential election. South Africans' hatred of foreigners, envy and covetousness is causing them to loot, burn, beat and rape foreigners."
Mbeki disarms law-abiding refugees and citizens while widespread crime is rampant in South Africa, Makumbirofa said. Thieves and outlaws are free to do whatever they wish with their victims.
"Guns will help innocent people to protect themselves from criminals, robbers, murderers, rapist and car hijackers," he said. "Criminals will become afraid of armed citizens because tyrants do not want armed citizens. Genocide is preceded by tight gun-control laws."
Eastes asserts responsible firearm ownership is the answer and would help shield a defenseless populace from rape, torture and slaughter.
"Without the means to protect yourself and your family, you are not a citizen but a mere subject," he said. "This is well explained by the brilliant Founding Fathers who wrote the USA's Constitution and firmly entrenched rights to firearm ownership in their Second Amendment."
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How many more countries' citizens have to be unarmed, then put through elimination before America will wake up and acknowledge the big plaid elephant in our living room.
I think their problems go way beyond the simple fact that some people are forced to be disarmed. They have been attempting ethnic clensing in many parts of Africa for a long time. Armed or not the attitudes in many of those countries is not going to change any time soon I fear.
Raping or sodomizing a 5 yr old as a cure for Aids, really, if people believe those types of things and society allows it, what do you expect. When the authorities refuse to enforce even basic laws, or ensure basic human rights, there is not much hope for self preservation.
What a sad state of affairs.
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Now according to the UN arming the victims just escalates the situation. It’s better to keep them unarmed otherwise more people will die. Of course the other people that might die are the bad guys but that doesn’t seem to matter to the UN.
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Holy crap and to think about the stuff i complain about on a daily basis don't even compare
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All parts of the globe have gone through similar (ugh, can't think of what to call it that does not sound over sanitized).
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All on the left and some on the right just can't get in in their heads that humans act like humans, no matter what skin color, or how their eyes slant or not, or what their plumbing is like.
Unfortunately, that includes an occasional mass murder.
What I dont even know what to day about this. I feel bad for them, makes you realize how good we have it here in the U.S... Well unless Obama wins in november man i cant even imagine what we may be like in the near future
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I guess nobody there ever heard of resistance.
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[QUOTE=Slim_45;744679 I feel bad for them, makes you realize how good we have it here in the U.S. [/QUOTE]
YEP. To really realize how well we have it ... live and work in virtual 3rd world countries for extended periods. Haiti, Thailand and Mexico.
Obama comment, not sure what you are implying -- But our current president has subverted the Bill of Rights, other laws and regs that form the basis of an informed population and protections from abuse by our government.
Earlier in his career while observing unregulated guns and kids killing inner city black kids, Obama was anti ... NOW, while not a strong 2A'r he is not anti. Jim Webb for VP.
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Obama is an anti.
He just recognizes and concedes that he's got to allow 'rural' living "hunters and fishemen" (!) to have guns because in practice the odds of talking or legislating guns from their hands are zero in real world America.
But don't live in a 'rural' area _and_ be a hunter or fisher and well yeah you too in his eyes and mindset can and should be disarmed.
That is an anti 2A state of mind and view, clear and simple.
"As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it." - Sen. Barack Obama, 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, Apr 16, 2008
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Lets keep this thread on topic and not go Political
Or it will be closed
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I read the articles describing the violent crime there, it reminds of me Jamaica in that life is so cheap, you can lose it OVER ANYTHING, even something as low as bus fair.... and just about every BG is packing heat, some respectable firepower too while most of the good citizens can't legally own a gun if they tried due to corruption, it's about who you know and how much you can pay... it's not a right, just a privilege and it's sad there are Americans who take their 2nd Amendment for granted because a huge portion of the world has NO SUCH provisions.
Any how, there are people leaving South Africa because of the violent crime rate there, the stories about entire families being executed, wives being raped and then having their throats cut etc is the product of a country that does not respect life and personal dignity, no wander the criminals are so brazen... they could hold a knife to your throat and it would be just another day on the street for passers by, you won't find people running to help you there for sure.
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