Why can't some people understand, there are bad people out there!
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Ex-con found guilty of torturing NYC grad student
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June 24th, 2008 07:35 PM
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Why can't some people understand, there are bad people out there!
Ex-con found guilty of torturing NYC grad student :: WRAL.com
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Ex-con found guilty of torturing NYC grad student
By SAMUEL MAULL
Associated Press Writer
Posted: Today at 5:28 p.m.
Updated: 29 minutes ago
NEW YORK — An ex-convict was found guilty Tuesday in the rape and torture of a Columbia University graduate student who survived 19 hours of nightmarish sadism in which he scalded her with boiling water and attempted to blind her before trying to burn her to death.
Robert Williams was convicted of attempted murder, rape, kidnapping, arson and other charges in the attack, which was so prolonged and agonizing that the victim begged her tormentor to kill her and later tried to kill herself.
The verdict followed a gruesome trial that included dramatic testimony from the victim, who said the 31-year-old Williams made her swallow fistfuls of painkillers, ordered her to gouge out her eyes with scissors, sealed her lips with super glue and gagged her with duct tape before torching her apartment.
Williams, who was found guilty of all but two of 46 counts, was not in court to hear the verdict read. The judge said that when Williams was told a verdict had been reached, he simply turned over in his courthouse cell and went back to sleep.
"He didn't have any more reaction to that than he has had to anything else," said Williams' attorney Arnold Levine.
The victim and her relatives, in the front row of the courtroom, showed no reaction while the verdicts were read. Her father, on behalf of the family, later declined to comment.
Williams, who previously served eight years in prison for attempted murder, could get a life sentence at a hearing set for July 24.
When the trial began June 5, prosecutor Ann Prunty told jurors that Williams had violated the victim "in every way imaginable - and in some ways unimaginable," then tried to finish her off by burning her alive.
The evidence against Williams included DNA from the victim found on a shirt he was wearing when he was arrested and DNA from him on one of the woman's T-shirts. The victim also identified him in court.
The woman told teary jurors Williams repeatedly raped and sodomized her, scalded her with boiling water, threw bleach at her eyes in an attempt to blind her and slit her eyelids during the excruciating torture in her upper Manhattan apartment.
Tied up and left unconscious to die in a fire her attacker set in her apartment, the woman woke up and used the flames to burn through some of her restraints and escape what might have become her crematorium.
Prunty credited the victim's intelligence and mental toughness with helping her survive, despite the emotional and physical pain.
The victim testified that she memorized features and scars of her torturer while trying to connect with him - even asking about his taste in music - and trying to convince him she wouldn't identify him to authorities.
The nearly three-week trial was unusual in that the defendant was in court just once for a few hours. He was forced to show up on the day the victim testified and pointed him out to the jury as her rapist and torturer.
"If you can't place your shots on a non-moving piece of paper, how much more difficult will it be when that piece of paper becomes a 3-time felon whose sole purpose is to avoid going back to prison no matter what happens and no matter who gets in the way?"
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June 24th, 2008 07:37 PM
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Sorry. Title was supposed to be "Why can't some people....."
"If you can't place your shots on a non-moving piece of paper, how much more difficult will it be when that piece of paper becomes a 3-time felon whose sole purpose is to avoid going back to prison no matter what happens and no matter who gets in the way?"
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June 24th, 2008 07:38 PM
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Hm, if it was Massachusetts I'd say he would be out on good behaviour in 2-3 years.... How long til he is out in NY?
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June 24th, 2008 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
Timor
Sorry. Title was supposed to be "Why can't some people....."
Fixed it for you.
Matt
Battle Plan (n) - a list of things that aren't going to happen if you are attacked.
Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.
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June 24th, 2008 07:44 PM
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I'm telling you evil people like him just need to be kilt
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June 24th, 2008 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I'm telling you evil people like him just need to be kilt
I hope you mean killed....or executed... don't tarnish the name of Kilts.
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June 24th, 2008 07:57 PM
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Why can't some people understand, there are bad people out there!
Exactly just how much do you really want to know? Most people live in their own little world-a bubble of sorts. Alot of folks can't read and comprehend at the same time. Some refuse to acknowledge the truth or the headlines. Does it really bother you that some folks just don't get into reality? Why do people start talking on their cell phones when they get in the vehicle and drive when they could have done all that while in the store, or at the gym, or at home before they left for their trip? Reasoning ability funds have been severely cut in this great nation due to lack of interest. (just following along with the OP) :)
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June 24th, 2008 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Reasoning ability funds have been severely cut in this great nation due to lack of interest.
There is so much truth in that simple statement. Well stated, Ram Rod.
"If you can't place your shots on a non-moving piece of paper, how much more difficult will it be when that piece of paper becomes a 3-time felon whose sole purpose is to avoid going back to prison no matter what happens and no matter who gets in the way?"
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June 25th, 2008 02:07 AM
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There is no accountability in this country any more. It is someone else or something that is at fault. Why should we take blame for we what we do, when we can blame others.
John Steinbeck: Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
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June 25th, 2008 07:34 AM
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Why can't some people understand, there are bad people out there!
Learning disability, beyond whatever else is true.
The nearly three-week trial ...
Learning disability, again. Can't imagine what would take so long.
This criminal seems to pray to the Super Glue god, the scissors god and the duct tape god. So be it. Super Glue his buttocks, feet and palms of his hands to the rafters, duct tape his mouth, ears and eyes closed so he can be a bit more introspective through it all, and finally duct tape his hair to the blades of ceiling fans in three directions. What are the scissors for? To cut the duct tape to exact lengths such that his hair is yanked in three directions in rapid-fire succession ... for days upon end. That'll just about do it.
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Explain: How does
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June 25th, 2008 08:07 AM
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...Can't imagine what would take so long.
I've gotta assume that this is simply how long it takes to get in evidence for 48 charges!!!
"It is only as retaliation that force may be used and only against the man who starts its use. No, I do not share his evil or sink to his concept of morality: I merely grant him his choice, destruction, the only destruction he had a right to choose: his own." - John Galt, from Atlas Shrugged
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June 25th, 2008 08:11 AM
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I pray that woman recovers. She's scared beyond my imagination.
That O2 waster need not continue breathing.
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June 25th, 2008 08:20 AM
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This guy would be a good candidate for the old English method of punishment, “Draw and Quarter” him. Anything less would be too humane.
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June 25th, 2008 08:39 AM
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As in Thialand...bind him and toss him to the gators...
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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June 25th, 2008 08:54 AM
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It is easier to refuse to accept that evil exists than it is to admit there is evil and (or be prepared to) confront it.
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