Another Very Ugly: Bus passenger beheaded seat mate - Canada....merged

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    One of a litany of reasons to carry, I suppose. Anywhere ... anytime.
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    Unfortunately, Greyhound prohibits firearms...even in checked baggage!

    Prohibited Items for Checked Baggage
    Acids, ammunition, animals, combustible liquids, compressed gases, corpses, cremated remains, explosives, firearms of all types, fireworks, flammable liquids, furniture, hazardous materials (poisons, radioactive materials, etc.), materials with a disagreeable odor, matches, merchandise for resale, protruding articles, or any unsecured articles including those in plastic or paper bags are prohibited. Baggage Information
    Please leave your corpses at home!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtD View Post
    I wonder if this was Jihad related? Like the Nick Berg deal.
    That was my first thought. Beheading is not normal behavior for the psychopaths I have read about. As if psychotic behavior can be characterized...

    Is the war coming closer to home?

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    Dollars to donuts, this guy was either:

    1) drugged
    2) deranged

    or

    3) a member of the "Religion of Peace"

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    I especially like the part about how the other passengers were "brave" for getting the hell out of there.

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    As serious as this incident is, Canada will probably revoke this guy's bus pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    As serious as this incident is, Canada will probably revoke this guy's bus pass.
    They've already taken everything else of substance. Wouldn't surprise me.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
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    Better ban those assault knives.
    Gun control can be blamed in part for allowing 9/11 to happen.
    "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum" (Latin)- "If you want peace, prepare for war".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitaryPower View Post
    Better ban those assault knives.
    A reporter brought that up, our Public safety minister (who is a gun nut) asked how the reporter planned to ban 20million+ plus knives?

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    well, here's the latest 411 on this should anyone be interested

    1) the murderer was a full blown schitzo

    2) people were passing extacy around the bus

    3) The schitzo first sat with the victims co-worker, a girl named Tracey, they talked for a hundred miles, no doubt, in part about her co-worker, the victim, which is where the schitzo sat next


    anyway, the guy who was in the Canadian Army and watched all this take place was right in front of these two. Although the victim may not have made it, it's also possible he could have if the murderer was shot asap, since the victim was screaming and thrashing around for a while

    lots of people have survived with a few stab wounds to the face and neck, the victim was completely denied this chance by the Canadian system and the sheeple within it that support a police state

    Also, I might add, our mental health system is in a state of crisis ~ there are almost no psychiatrists available, the typical waiting time to see a shrink is about 5 months, apparently it's not in our budget but we can afford over 2 billion to register all Canadians with guns. Money that would have been better spent on some much needed health care.

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    Well I guess it’s a good thing no one had a gun on that buss someone could have gotten hurt or even killed!

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    now... the guy gets to live in a country club prison of paradise in Canada for life (maybe). Have you seen how they treat their major felonius criminals ?
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    I took the greyhound a few years ago. Real big guy wearing a dirty flannel shirt sat down next to me, and after riding for a while I thought I'd try to make conversation.

    Me: "So where you headed?"
    Weirdo: "Gotta get outta Oregon"
    Me: "uh, oh yeah?" (not quite sure what to say to that...)
    Weirdo: "Gotta get outta Oregon... I do terrible things when I'm in Oregon"
    Me: "uh, yeah, guess you better get out, then..."

    The rest of the trip was spent in silence. Yeesh.

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    I stopped taking greyhounds years ago because I notice the air is recyled over and over while all these wierdos on the way to their Jerry Springer appearance (i presume) kept coughing and coughing, and the sickening fumes from the chemical toilet.

    They should call it Tuberculosis Bus Lines ltd.

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    Question Guy beheads another on a Grayhound bus

    WTH?
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090304/..._bus_beheading
    Man accused of beheading on bus pleads not guilty

    WINNIPEG, Manitoba – A man accused of beheading and cannibalizing a passenger on a Greyhound bus apologized to police when he was arrested and begged officers to kill him. The details emerged Tuesday as Vince Li faced his murder trial by pleading not guilty.

    The Chinese immigrant is being tried on second-degree murder charges in the death of Tim McLean, a 22-year-old carnival worker who was killed in what passengers described as a random, horrific attack.

    "I'm sorry. I'm guilty. Please kill me," Li said in a statement of facts agreed to by both the prosecution and defense.

    But Li delivered his not guilty plea to the court in a loud, clear voice.

    Li's lawyers are not disputing that he killed McLean, but they argue Li was mentally ill and not criminally responsible. A psychiatrist told the court Li is schizophrenic and believed God told him to do it.

    Three dozen passengers were aboard the bus as it traveled at night along a desolate stretch of the Trans-Canada Highway in western Canada. Witnesses said Li attacked McLean unprovoked, stabbing him dozens of times.

    The statement of facts read in court said Li attacked McLean "for no apparent reason" and McLean fought to escape before he died.

    As horrified passengers fled the bus, Li severed McLean's head and displayed it to some of the passengers outside, witnesses said.

    A police report said an officer at the scene saw the attacker hacking off pieces of the body and eating them.

    The statement said the attacker tried numerous times to leave the bus, but he was locked inside. Li eventually escaped through a window and was later arrested.

    Police said some body parts were found in various areas of the bus and some were found in Li's possession.

    McLean's family and friends, many wearing T-shirts with his picture, wept as the details were read.

    Li, dressed in a suit and running shoes without laces, appeared calm during the hearing as he sat surrounded by security guards, his back to spectators.

    Li did not understand his actions were wrong, psychiatrist Stanley Yaren told the court.

    "A voice from God told him Mr. McLean was the force of evil and was about to execute him," he said. Li believed he had to act quickly to protect himself. The doctor said Li is still psychotic and believes it's just a matter of time before God kills him.

    "My son's biggest mistake was going, 'how's it going,'" and for that he was attacked, said Carol deDelley, McLean's mother. She said she wants the law changed so anyone found not criminally responsible for a crime still serves prison time.

    Li, who came to Canada in 2001, pleaded at an earlier hearing in August for someone to "please kill me."

    Canada does not have the death penalty.

    His former wife said Li, who became a Canadian citizen in 2005, took unexplained bus trips and sometimes rambled. He was hospitalized briefly but never sought medical attention.

    Before he left on the bus trip, he left his wife a note: "I'm gone. Don't look for me. I wish you were happy."
    Last edited by SYKO; March 4th, 2009 at 02:46 AM. Reason: added story
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