August 4th, 2008 06:13 PM
BAD 7-11 clerk gunned down BG has 2 young kids with him - Phoenix, AZ
PHOENIX A 7-Eleven clerk was gunned down in his west Phoenix store by a gunman, who police say, was accompanied by two young children.
Police said robbery does not appear to be the motive.
The killing was captured on videotape by the store's surveillance cameras.
Police Detective Stacie Derge said it appears that the suspect walked into the store at 27th and Glendale avenues early Monday carrying a 2-year-old child and also accompanied by a 4-year-old child, then "shot the clerk and then left."
Derge says the suspect and victim had a conversation, "but no kind of fight or anything like that."
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August 4th, 2008 07:12 PM
Just as casual as if he were getting a drink from the cooler. This guy is "hardened" and needs to meet his Maker.
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August 4th, 2008 09:51 PM
Either the guy's insane, or there was some history between the two. In case the story doesn't say, I believe they have already caught the idiot.
August 4th, 2008 11:52 PM
This is an odd situation...how would you shoot to defend yourself if it meant hitting a young child if the coward uses the child as a shield?
All around nasty situation.
This trash need 'life'...away from humanity, just for starters...preferably as fertilizer.
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August 5th, 2008 02:38 AM
I'm just glad I don't work in a job where that scenario is a likely possibility.
But, I gotta say... I don't believe I am required to forfeit my life because some POS Robber is using a shield either.
borrowed from another post in a different thread:
Originally Posted by Eagleks
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
August 5th, 2008 03:28 AM
Originally Posted by retsupt99
That'd be the most productive that (punk/thug/O2 waster) could be.
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August 5th, 2008 07:42 AM
We need to start softening these "hardened" criminals up. A dozen rounds of 5.56mm NATO each should do the job nicely.
August 5th, 2008 08:48 AM
I would have to be like Kurt Russell in "SOLDIER" and just take out whoever had to be taken out to get the bad guy. Dang, I am a lot more heartless than even I thought I was!!!!
August 5th, 2008 08:51 AM
bad 7-11 story
can't find the words to say.
holding to small children like
that while you shoot down
a store clerk(or anyone for that matter)
god only knows what the poor kids
are going thur. my prayers go out
to the victims family and to the two
small kids this waste of human skin
scum of the earth piece of you know
what this *@&hole did.
sorry but that really pisses me off.
(SHERIFF BUFORD T. JUSTICE) "what the hell is
the world coming too"
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August 5th, 2008 09:20 AM
Very Sad!!! for all parties...
August 5th, 2008 09:31 AM
I see it all the time where drug sellers (or buyers) take kids "to work". To them, its just like helping daddy mow the lawn or fix the car. They typically run small errands as well. Just as I remember reaching tools to my dad fixing a car. Sadly, to these kids, shooting someone will be as "normal" as it is to you working on your car.
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August 5th, 2008 09:43 AM
Do it anyway, doing what one can to avoid striking the shield. It's life or death. Hesitation at that moment may well yield a predictable result.
Originally Posted by retsupt99
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
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August 6th, 2008 10:24 AM
some history happened between the two when money was not taken. Hope they get him soon.
August 6th, 2008 01:06 PM
That punk needs to be put down. WTH kind of person commits murder while holding a kid?? Unbelieveable! Absolute disregard for life.
I have to agree with retsupt99, how do you shoot back? While in principal, I would not want to just take a bullet because this guy is holding a kid, but at the same time, that kid IS totally innocent. At 2 years old, he has no idea what is going on. And is now probably scarred for life.
August 10th, 2008 08:25 PM
No "Hees a good parent" defense for him.
Sick person. I'd like to know why he did this. It's bad for the R2KBA in general.
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