Police: Suicidal Woman Killed after Pointing Gun at Officers
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FORT WORTH, Texas -- A woman who was ...
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September 4th, 2008 09:11 AM
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Police: Suicidal Woman Killed after Pointing Gun at Officers
Last Edited: Thursday, 04 Sep 2008, 7:58 AM CDT
Created: Thursday, 04 Sep 2008, 7:40 AM CDT
FORT WORTH, Texas -- A woman who was apparently intent on ending her life pointed a gun at a Fort Worth police officer who shot her twice in the chest killing her, according to Lt. Paul Henderson, police spokesman.
Two patrol officers driving through a park in the 4300 block of Sansom Drive Wednesday night noticed a car parked with the lights out.
The officers checked out the vehicle and found a woman sitting in the front seat slumped over the steering wheel crying. Investigators said the woman had been writing a suicide note when the officers approached her car.
Henderson said one officer reached through the driver's side window and put his hand on the woman's shoulder to see if she was OK. As she leaned back, she allegedly revealed a small .22 pistol.
The officer stepped back from the car and the woman put the gun to the side of her head and pulled the trigger, but she was not fatally wounded.
Police said she then cocked the gun and pointed it at the other officer who was near the passenger side window.
That officer fired his service weapon through the windshield striking the woman twice and killing her.
"We are deeply saddened for the woman and the loss her family has experienced. We are equally saddened for the officers who went through this ordeal, " said Lt. Henderson.
The officers will be allowed to take time off but the Fort Worth Police Department does not have a policy of putting officers involved in shootings on administrative leave.
Major Case Detectives are investigating. Their findings will be turned over a Grand Jury which will decide if the officer was justified in shooting the woman.
The Medical Examiner's Office has not released the woman's name.
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September 4th, 2008 09:11 AM
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September 4th, 2008 09:28 AM
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Dang......one way or another she got what she wanted.
The officer didn't have a choice and the woman felt she had no other alternitive.
Very sad.
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September 4th, 2008 09:30 AM
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sad how it ended. seems she just wanted to end her life no matter what it took.
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September 4th, 2008 09:33 AM
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Very sad article...Now because of her wish to end her life (her problem solved) the LEO has to continue living with the memory of taking someone's life (suicide is so selfish). My prayers go out to her family & the LEOs involved.
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September 4th, 2008 09:35 AM
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I believe, there are many cases of "suicide by cop" that go unnoticed.
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September 4th, 2008 10:33 AM
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Very sad. Although the officer's actions certainly seem justifiable, I wonder if under the circumstances other actions could have been taken. E.g., if wearing a vest, could he have dodged away and left her sitting there sobbing. Could she have been distracted. Yes, both approaches are risky, and it isn't right to ask the officer to shoulder the risk, but then saving a life is sometimes worth the effort.
I wasn't there, so can't judge. It does seem the lady was reduced to an emotional bowl of jelly by the time they arrived; and it is certainly too bad the pat on the back didn't help. Could things have turned out different if the two stepped back and summoned folks more skilled in handling mentally ill people?
These are really rhetorical questions because I think that in general our society does a miserable job of dealing with the mentally ill. So justified as the shoot appears to be, I'm just sort of asking if it really was unavoidable in this particular circumstance.
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September 4th, 2008 10:53 AM
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I had to physically wrestle a .32 auto out of a woman's hands that was wanting to shoot herself. I was wearing a vest and twister her hand toward my chest and away from hers.
That was many years ago. The last I heard she had gotten herself squared away and was enjoying life. But that afternoon, she was determined to find a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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September 4th, 2008 01:32 PM
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I wonder if under the circumstances other actions could have been taken. E.g., if wearing a vest, could he have dodged away and left her sitting there sobbing.
Geez. 
My thoughts and prayers go to the Officers involved and their families.
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September 4th, 2008 01:33 PM
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point blank .22 and still able to coherently aim a gun,either she had the gun angled and got a glancing blow or she had a thick skull,Suicide is permanent solution to a temporary problem,but I've seen people that feel like they are backed in a corner and feel that being dead will solve all their problems and end whatever emotional pain they are in
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September 4th, 2008 06:23 PM
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Sir, you have migh high admiration :)

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I had to physically wrestle a .32 auto out of a woman's hands that was wanting to shoot herself. I was wearing a vest and twister her hand toward my chest and away from hers.
That was many years ago. The last I heard she had gotten herself squared away and was enjoying life. But that afternoon, she was determined to find a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Sir,
You have my high admiration. I can't imagine being in your shoes at that moment. Thank you.
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September 4th, 2008 07:59 PM
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This woman made an obvious choice...can't blame the cop, he wanted to see his family that night.
Unfortunately, I have no real concerns for the lady...it's a done deal.
Hope the officer(s) can easily get by this tragic incident.
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September 4th, 2008 08:10 PM
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What a selfish gesture on this young person's part. Now she has not only burdened her family with her selfish solution to her problem, she has made someone else have the burden of having to defend themselves and take another human life.
This thing is close to home too. My daughter is enrolled at the same school.
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September 4th, 2008 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I had to physically wrestle a .32 auto out of a woman's hands that was wanting to shoot herself. I was wearing a vest and twister her hand toward my chest and away from hers.
That was many years ago. The last I heard she had gotten herself squared away and was enjoying life. But that afternoon, she was determined to find a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
that's great to hear,im glad she got better.as far as the news item goes,if someone shoots themselves then points their gun at me i would not hesitate to shoot them.who knows what they are thinking in this deranged condition.i hope the leos involved everything turns out alright.
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September 5th, 2008 01:36 PM
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Remember that young deputy that shot up a party? IIRC he shot himself in the head with his AR-15 and didn't die right away. Well I guess that's just a .22 too.
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September 5th, 2008 02:48 PM
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Sounds like she was shot in order to keep her from committing suicide!
Duh?
Obviously, the office thought she was attempting to shoot him and he reacted. But, hey. What did he think she was going to do after all?

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