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    Home Invasion Robbers Pose as Police

    Home Invasion Robbers Pose as Police - CBS47.com Jacksonville News Leader

    Police are looking for a some thieves after a home invasion robbery in North Jacksonville.

    JSO says the three were wearing masks when they cut the power to the home and barged in like a swat team.

    They told the two victims inside they were JSO Swat and pointed guns at their heads.

    The three stole the victims cash, cell phones, and some prescription medication.

    "I though they were cops," says one of the victims.

    Police do not have much of a description of the suspects, but according to the police report the armed men left behind a cell phone.



    Seems to me the BG's are getting a little more organized, cutting power then taking the house using violence of action (maybe learned on TV) to clear/secure victims.

    Lock your doors and stay armed.
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    you get an organized criminal with a cell jammer who cases a house then cuts phone and power, then dresses up as law enforcement or power company, etc and they can do soem damage.
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    Theifs are getting more and more brave..

    I need to get a homedefender for the house.

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    For these reasons...i am always armed in my house. i don't know who is on the other side of my door.
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    If three heavily armed men bust into your home, and present a reasonable facimile of being police, you as a home owner are in some deep doo doo.

    There are only a few outcomes:

    1) They are police. You fight back with lethal force, and are killed. (If by some miracle you survive, you will in all likelihood die in prison).

    2) They are police. You submit to their authority, and live to fight another day (and possibly win a nice lawsuit, depending).

    3) They are not police. You fight back with lethal force, and are killed (lets face it, three rifle/shotgun armed folks who are willing to kill us at this point most likely will - they have numbers and firepower (and probably surprise) on their side. I'm fairly well trained and experienced, but I don't give myself too much chance in this scenario).

    4) They are not police. You submit to their (perceived) authority, and are robbed (and possibly worse).

    None of these is ideal, obviously... Truly a worst case scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    Truly a worst case scenario.
    1+ on that!
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    If they bust in and have no warrant, no nothing...to prove they are cops, IMO, it's fair game.
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    +2 Man are things nutty or what.......
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    I feel for yall in the big citys . I live in small town flyover country and the last thing the locals would consider is kicking my door . For one thing everyone not in uniform will be treated as a home invader . for another one is all it takes is a cell call from my parking lot and i will surrender the property for you to search ( assuming you have a warrant ) . The locals know that if you kick my door in the middle of the night i am likely to fire on you , but if you call me and seize the property i am likely to take the time it takes to stand up to give it to you . NO One will come thro my door without being shot back out . End of discussion , and i am really sorry if you are LE . Any LE can pull up here and tell me that they have a warrant . If your LE and your after me ... well your mistaken , and i will argue that in court as long as you present yourself . I submit to the court if and when i know it . You sir need to be carefull with me .
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    +3 OPFOR

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    But isn't it illegal to misrepresent yourself as a police officer? I dont understand how this could have happened.

    My co-workers and I used to discuss things like this all the time. I used to tell them that if I were going to invade their home I would yell "Police" as I kicked the door in. That would give me all the edge I needed to do what I wanted.

    I believe OPFOR is correct. If you shoot and guess wrong you will be in deep dodo. You will be dead or in prison.

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    But isn't it illegal to misrepresent yourself as a police officer?
    Of course it is, but that didn't stop these BGs, did it?

    It's illegal to commit murder, but does that stop people from murdering other people?

    Welcome to the real world.


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    reminds me - i need to install that driveway "alarm"... the old early warning doorbell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    Of course it is, but that didn't stop these BGs, did it?

    It's illegal to commit murder, but does that stop people from murdering other people?

    Welcome to the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post

    3) They are not police. You fight back with lethal force, and are killed (lets face it, three rifle/shotgun armed folks who are willing to kill us at this point most likely will - they have numbers and firepower (and probably surprise) on their side. I'm fairly well trained and experienced, but I don't give myself too much chance in this scenario).

    None of these is ideal, obviously... Truly a worst case scenario.
    I think we'd have a chance; its our home field. We know the layout, available cover, lights in all rooms are remote controlled (from the bedroom we can turn the light on at the other side of the house) there are several entrance/exits, it could be real confusing and most BG cannot shoot decently (unless they have the new Glock with the sights on the side of the slide - gangbanger model ).

    As somebody said: "You might find me dead but I'll be on a pile of used brass".
    It IS a BAD situation; but if I am going to die I'd like to take a few others with me ...
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