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    UGLY ARTICLE: 'Disposable' AK-47s — trend that worries cops

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    'Disposable' AK-47s — trend that worries cops

    Henry Pierson Curtis

    Sentinel Staff Writer

    October 11, 2008

    Orange County's latest murders reflect an alarming trend for law enforcement: urban firefights with dozens of shots fired.

    The shooters in Tuesday night's double killing outside a Pine Hills apartment complex emptied two AK-47s into the victims and fled, discarding the assault rifles, two handguns and a shotgun.

    "They just disposed of them like disposable cigarette lighters, I guess, because they're so easy to get," sheriff's homicide Detective Dave Clark said Friday. "I mean, it's really unusual for people to leave stuff like this behind."

    Andre Patterson, 27, and Joshua Sharpe, 25, were shot repeatedly in the parking lot of Kensington Cottages apartments on Burroughs Drive off Hiawassee Road. Crime-scene technicians found 58 cartridges fired by the AK-47s and an undisclosed number from the other firearms.

    One of the AK-47s had a 30-shot magazine. The other had a 40-shot magazine. Both had been fired until empty.

    "We've come across something like this on three or four occasions this year with multiple weapons," said homicide Sgt. Allen Lee. "Just a couple of weeks ago when those [five] people got shot in Apopka, there were at least three different bursts of gunfire while we were there. And there were at least four to nine shots each time."

    Crimes involving assault weapons have become so common that police officials across the nation are discussing how to contain the national problem, Sheriff Kevin Beary said this week. "We need to have a round-table with the Police Executive Research Foundation to get some answers," he said.

    In the days since the double killing, detectives had learned that Patterson and Sharpe drove to the apartments to help a friend arguing with residents. The two groups clashed. Exactly why is still being investigated to identify the killers, Detective Brian Cross said.

    The gunfight continued after deputies began arriving in patrol cars shortly after the 11:25 p.m. 911 call, according to interviews.

    "They could have gotten hit," said Clark, noting patrol cars provide virtually no protection against assault rifles.

    The victims' minivan and two other vehicles found in the parking lot had been hit by the gunfire. The bullets went through the doors, including a door post, and flattened a tire. The Sheriff's Office impounded the vehicles and confiscated the guns to examine them for clues.

    Patterson had been arrested at least 13 times in Orange County on charges related to drugs, violence and firearms. Sharpe, known as "Booty," did not have a record in Orange County.

    The killings -- the 55th and 56th in the unincorporated area of the county so far this year -- are being investigated with the help of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

    So far, ATF agents based in Orlando discovered that one of the guns, a 9mm Sig-Sauer pistol, was stolen with 46 other firearms in a 2004 burglary of Shoot Straight- Casselberry, a Seminole County gun shop. One of the AK-47s shows likely signs of having been stolen because the serial number had been filed in an attempt to remove it, detectives said.


    Henry Pierson Curtis can be reached at hcurtis@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5257.

    Copyright © 2008, Orlando Sentinel

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    It's not that they are disposable, those thugs are just that well financed and have the resourses to get what they want when they want.


    Things are bad.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldshellback View Post
    It's not that they are disposable, those thugs are just that well financed and have the resourses to get what they want when they want.


    Things are bad.........
    Yeah, what's bad is when anti's are using articles like this to pump the sheeple for more (useless) laws. Well, the laws are useless insofar as stopping crime...
    Anti-gunners seem to believe that if we just pass enough laws, we can have utopia. Unfortunately, utopia is NOT one of our choices.

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    ...from the article...
    "We've come across something like this on three or four occasions this year with multiple weapons," said homicide Sgt. Allen Lee. "Just a couple of weeks ago when those [five] people got shot in Apopka, there were at least three different bursts of gunfire while we were there. And there were at least four to nine shots each time."

    Crimes involving assault weapons have become so common that police officials across the nation are discussing how to contain the national problem, Sheriff Kevin Beary said this week. "We need to have a round-table with the Police Executive Research Foundation to get some answers," he said.


    Let me guess, more gun laws? Yeah, that's it...tougher gun laws, that'll do it.
    All the rhetoric...
    How about we just keep the dirtbags in jail from the FIRST offense...now there's a unique idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldshellback View Post
    It's not that they are disposable, those thugs are just that well financed and have the resourses to get what they want when they want.


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    +1

    guns are not "disposable" except in England where they steamroll them and the BATFE when they torch them ...
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    Could it possibly be that the scumbags that commit "drive by" murder are finally getting a wee bit smarter and have figured out that it's probably not such a great idea to be stopped and found with two murder weapons in their getaway vehicle?

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    Actually if they cross reference with other shootings they will probably find that the guns were also involved. It has become a practice on the street to "loan", "rent", or "trade" guns accross the country. When the guns get to be to "hot" then they are dumped. This just more fuel for anti gunners, if more laws are passed it just makes it easier for the thugs to do their crimes.

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    What you will see is more going after the bullets...something along the lines of like the fertilizer marking and tracking after the OKC bombing. You will see restrictions on the amount of bullets being purchased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    How about we just keep the dirtbags in jail from the FIRST offense...now there's a unique idea.
    Come on now, quit trying to use logic and common sense to solve the problem! You and I both know it isn't the shooters fault, it's that mean, nasty, scary guns fault, it held them down and twisted their arms until they had no choice but to comply with the guns wishes and shoot someone!!
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    Sorry for belaboring this point BUT, now there is a video associated with the article which turns into an advertisement for a renewed assault weapons ban.

    Go to the page and watch the entire video.

    'Disposable' AK-47s — trend that worries cops -- OrlandoSentinel.com

    This is getting scary.

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    Perhaps they should install recycle bins for “disposable weapons”
    That would fix part of the problem. Right?
    They only new laws should be on “failure of proper deposable of a weapon.”
    Also, maybe some armor plating in the police cars.
    And a stronger law to not shoot at police cars.

    Logic failure…

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