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    BAD: Paraglider lands and gets beaten up by 3 X 14 year olds

    Paraglider attack caught on tape
    Thursday, 23 October 2008

    A man suffered a suspected broken nose and eye socket after allegedly being attacked by three youths when he landed his paraglider on Mount Maunganui yesterday.


    Three 14-year-old boys were appearing in Tauranga Youth Court today on assault charges after the attack on 39-year-old Dave Edwards. Police said other charges may be laid.

    Mount Manganui acting Senior Sergeant Craig Madden said police received a report that a number of people were assaulting a paraglider on the summit of Mauao (the Mount) about 12.20pm.

    The attack was caught on tape.

    The Bay of Plenty Times reported today the boys were believed to be part of a programme for troubled youth visiting the iconic landmark.

    Mr Edwards was attacked after he landed his paraglider to speak to a group of five teenagers, some of whom were threatening to throw rocks at him.

    Fearing for his safety, he had yelled at the group not to throw the rocks, before deciding to land.

    As he landed, one of the boys charged at him, Mr Edwards said.

    He was able to hold down the first boy but when he looked up to see the others he received a "soccer kick' to the face - the force lifting him off the ground and rolling him over.

    Video footage, being used by a friend to record Mr Edwards in flight, reveals he was then kicked in the back of the head followed by a series of punches.

    Mr Edwards said the woman in charge of supervising the boys, believed to be attending a Whakatane-based programme for troubled youth, said it was hard to control them.

    The attack was witnessed by several people.

    Mr Edwards was taken from the summit by quad bike to an ambulance waiting at the base. He was taken to Tauranga Hospital, where he was checked and released.

    Dave Shaw, president of the Tauranga Hang Gliding and Paragliding Club, was shocked by the incident.

    "This is the Mount, where it's supposed to be for tourists, you don't expect to see people getting bashed up."
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    Quote Originally Posted by heylin View Post
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    The Bay of Plenty Times reported today the boys were believed to be part of a programme for troubled youth visiting the iconic landmark.

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    I've got a programme for them...

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    Mount Maunganui? The one in New Zealand?



    I thought only perfect societies existed outside of the United States and frankly I'm shocked about this whole matter.

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    Too bad they weren't tossed off the summit. Sounds like he could have been killed.
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    I thought only perfect societies existed outside of the United States and frankly I'm shocked about this whole matter.
    This sort of thing, although rare still happens in NZ, we arent perfect but we are certainly safer than other parts fo the world.

    tourism NZ would be rolling in their grave at the moment if they new I was posting little insights into our crime stories here :)

    The Mount is a great place in summer time (sort of like a mini Gold Coast, Queensland, in Australia). There has only been 2 or 3 serious incident there in the past decade, so to me thats pretty safe.

    90% of the places that tourists go are 99% safe, the only time you are likely to run into issues is

    a) camping by yourself on the side of the road
    b) walking around major cities after 11pm when drunk people are out
    c) leaving your car unlocked with valuables in view
    d) going into rough areas (ie South Auckland)

    and even then it would still be hard to run into a problem.

    your talking 1% of 1% chance or running into trouble
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    Quote Originally Posted by heylin View Post
    90% of the places that tourists go are 99% safe, the only time you are likely to run into issues is

    a) camping by yourself on the side of the road
    b) walking around major cities after 11pm when drunk people are out
    c) leaving your car unlocked with valuables in view
    d) going into rough areas (ie South Auckland)

    and even then it would still be hard to run into a problem.

    your talking 1% of 1% chance or running into trouble
    So, the remainder of the time, you're pretty much defenseless, right?

    It really doesn't matter how "safe" a place is--because all of that is irrelevant once a BG is standing over you with a rock, or after he/she has kicked you in the face.

    While the likelihood of me being robbed in my home (other than from my wife) is low, it doesn't mean I am not prepared: mentally, physically, and emotionally.

    I bet the guy getting beat down wished he had some sort of defensive tool, other than bad language. Does he believe this place is still safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    So, the remainder of the time, you're pretty much defenseless, right?

    It really doesn't matter how "safe" a place is--because all of that is irrelevant once a BG is standing over you with a rock, or after he/she has kicked you in the face.

    While the likelihood of me being robbed in my home (other than from my wife) is low, it doesn't mean I am not prepared: mentally, physically, and emotionally.

    I bet the guy getting beat down wished he had some sort of defensive tool, other than bad language. Does he believe this place is still safe?
    Exactly.

    While someone is violating your most basic rights (i.e. right to life), you're not likely to be thinking to yourself, "self, at least there was only a 1% chance of this happening. It might as well be me then, good for someone else."
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    Quote Originally Posted by heylin View Post
    This sort of thing, although rare still happens in NZ, we arent perfect but we are certainly safer than other parts fo the world.

    tourism NZ would be rolling in their grave at the moment if they new I was posting little insights into our crime stories here :)

    The Mount is a great place in summer time (sort of like a mini Gold Coast, Queensland, in Australia). There has only been 2 or 3 serious incident there in the past decade, so to me thats pretty safe.

    90% of the places that tourists go are 99% safe, the only time you are likely to run into issues is

    a) camping by yourself on the side of the road
    b) walking around major cities after 11pm when drunk people are out
    c) leaving your car unlocked with valuables in view
    d) going into rough areas (ie South Auckland)

    and even then it would still be hard to run into a problem.

    your talking 1% of 1% chance or running into trouble
    We've all heard this before...
    "I can't believe this happened here, it's such a safe place. I never thought it would happen to me."

    It only has to happen ONE TIME!

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    So since the US is pretty much the only holiday destination you can goto fully armed you are prepared to not travel anywhere you can shoot someone in self defence ?

    How crazy is that ? NZ has millions of tourists come here every year without incident.

    You have to live your life with some element of risk otherwise you arent living, after all you do drive a car and 55,000 people die each year on the roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    While the likelihood of me being robbed in my home (other than from my wife) is low, it doesn't mean I am not prepared: mentally, physically, and emotionally.

    I bet the guy getting beat down wished he had some sort of defensive tool, other than bad language. Does he believe this place is still safe?
    That's the point.
    Even here in the states, what are the chances of yours or my home getting broken into by BG's? Pretty dang low.
    That's no consolation to the people that it happens to though. And it happens to way too many people. That is exactly why we can never,or should I say 'should never', lose our second amendment rights and the God given right to defend ourself.
    By the way, don't expect Obama to defend 'your right to defend yourself', as he has voted multiple times while in the Illinois Senate that he believes you should not have that right.



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    Oh I know...I'm originally from IL....

    I know what it is like to live in a socialist state....where freedoms are restricted.

    If it weren't for some of the people in Springfield and Chicago, and the politics that go along with those places, IL is NOT a bad place to live.

    I'm a fan of Southern Illinois, myself.
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