Good: Off-Duty Cop shoots teen who attempts to rob him at gas station - Buffalo, NY
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Yet another death that could have been avoided...
At a time like this, ...
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October 27th, 2008 03:51 PM
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Found another sickening article about the shooting 
University at Buffalo the Spectrum
Yet another death that could have been avoided...
At a time like this, people attempt to cast blame on one person or group in order to dampen the grim reality of the event. The sad truth, though, is that all parties are to blame in this case.
Officer Lamar McCulley panicked. A man put a gun to his head. It's tough to put blame on this young officer for this tragedy.
But when the officer found himself able to clear his weapon without being shot, wasn't his responsibility as a man who is required to carry a deadly weapon as part of his job to assess the situation and respond accordingly?
Instead, McCulley fired five shots in his attacker's general direction. The idea that a cop would let off five rounds in a residential area in that short a time is terrifying. In truth, this calls attention to the importance of proper training for law enforcement officers. It's all well and good to be a good shot in a range, but are these people being adequately prepared for real-life situations?
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October 27th, 2008 03:51 PM
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October 27th, 2008 04:01 PM
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Wow, what an idealistic view of the world so many who have never been outside of academia seem to have.
But when the officer found himself able to clear his weapon without being shot, wasn't his responsibility as a man who is required to carry a deadly weapon as part of his job to assess the situation and respond accordingly?
To whoever the author was (odd that there's no credit for this self-righteous article) - Yes, he DID react and respond accordingly: He felt his life was in danger and he stopped the threat. Stopping and thinking, "Hmm, I wonder why he hasn't shot yet?" when your, or someone else's life, is in danger is a great way to get someone shot.
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November 2nd, 2008 01:31 AM
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That editorial is ridiculous.
The officer found that he was some how still alive so thus it was his duty to choose not to try to fight for his life.
Stupid, ignorant, and lacking in common sense.
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November 2nd, 2008 01:51 AM
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The only thing worse than the situation that has happened is the fact that under one of our two potential Presidential administrations the family would be right and the officer wrong. Why hold people to be responsible for themselves and their actions when you can blame someone else and use taxpayer money to make things "better"? All I can say is for the betterment of society, and the minimizing of issues like this everyone needs to vote for the Elephant and pray the jackass goes down...
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November 2nd, 2008 02:16 AM
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Exactly what lefty/liberals say when their side of an issue is entirely indefensible:
...The sad truth, though, is that all parties are to blame in this case...
An armed populace are called citizens.
An unarmed populace are called subjects.
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November 2nd, 2008 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by
Siafu
"I want to know why the officer had to shoot to kill? Why not shoot to maim,” the grandfather asked.
He didn't shoot to kill. He shot to live.
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November 2nd, 2008 07:42 AM
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I wonder if the department this Officer works for will replace the bullets he had to use or does he have to purchase his own...hmmm,not to mention his overtime.
Maybe they could invoice the little junior BG's family.
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November 2nd, 2008 01:01 PM
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“It turns out it was a BB gun, but that’s of no account because the victim of a robbery doesn’t have to learn to his disagreeable surprise that it is a real weapon.”
The warning: Not a toy. May cause fatal injury. is stamped on the side of my Sheridan. A shot in the ear could have been fatal.
An armed man is a citizen.
An unarmed man is a subject.
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November 2nd, 2008 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
Janq
That editorial is ridiculous.
The officer found that he was some how still alive so thus it was his duty to choose not to try to fight for his life.
Stupid, ignorant, and lacking in common sense.
- Janq
Exactly my thoughts as well. What I find most disconcerting is the blaming of the officer...and no accountability on the part of the BG. But I also know, fortunately, we live in a society that allows opinion. And I believe his opinion will be in the minority concerning this incident.
Rick
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November 2nd, 2008 02:21 PM
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It's amazing how malcontents nowadays always think that assistance should be in the form of a government check. As if money was going to solve a mental problem. Lets face it, grandpa, momma and auntie are simply looking for easy money as was junior.
Both news articles are sickeningly biased, but in answer to grandpa's question as to why the officer shot to kill instead of to maim, because we're trained to shoot to kill.
As for the lame psuedo illness of resistance to authority figures, the cop was wearing an overcoat and his uniform was concealed. The punk thought he was an easy mark, that's why he accosted him. Had he known he was a cop, he'd have looked for easier prey. He didn't know he was an "authority figure". Better luck next time gramps.
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November 2nd, 2008 04:53 PM
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The real truth is, if the 'system' hadn't been giving the family 'assistance', then the kid would have probably been working a job to ensure he had enough to eat. And in a truly free country, of course, a life of armed robbery would be a death sentence as it wouldn't be long before a good upstanding citizen like this officer would defend their life against the scum.
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