November 30th, 2008 09:36 PM
Bad: Fake Police Rob Woman (DC)
As reported by ABCNews.com:
Fake Police Rob Woman
Men posing as law enforcement entered her home and ran off with loads of loot [including husbands rifle].
Video Report - Fake Police Rob Woman
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November 30th, 2008 09:41 PM
No surely not, people impersonating officers
Hope they find them very quickly.
Did the lady look at the paperwork or after letting them in? I assume she was just complying with their actions until the others came and called the LEO's.
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November 30th, 2008 10:08 PM
Perhaps there will be some prints on items left behind in the bag...tough spot to be in.
I wouldn't letting anyone in without a call to 911...nothing in our home that could be considered illegal activity.
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November 30th, 2008 10:24 PM
One of my worst nightmares.
Damned if they force their way in (and they are fake), damned if you shoot (and they are real).
November 30th, 2008 10:33 PM
Well, if as she says they were wearing "SWAT gear," I assume most citizens would be too intimidated to ask to see the warrant or badges in fear of getting their door kicked down and themselves shot, or something. Maybe one of us could notice certain discrepancies, but I can't say I've ever seen a SWAT member in person so who knows.
Not a good situation. There was a time a few years ago around here where fake cops would pull people over on the road, and then proceed to rob them on the side of the highway. I can't remember exactly but I believe that there were even quite a few women raped as well.
I guess this brings another scenario. If someone like this shows up at your door, and then you try to go for the phone - they break down the door, and tell you to stay still or be shot, what do you do? If they are real SWAT you cannot fire (regardless of whether they have a legal warrant or not, there's no way you're going to justify a shooting like that). If they are not you are taking one hell of a chance if they are dressed out well.
Seems like a lose-lose to me.
November 30th, 2008 11:44 PM
Originally Posted by paul34
Negative, police have to comply with the law just like every other citizen. If a police officer enters your house illegally and you feel threatened then you have EVERY legal right to open fire. NO ONE can enter your home without a warrant or being invited in. This Hollywood vision of police officers kicking in doors for every warrant that is in everyone’s head just isn’t true. Any citizen that isn’t involved with MAJOR drug trafficking, Mob activity, Gang activity, kidnapping, or something equally high ranking isn’t going to have their door kicked in. AND if they DO kick your door in and are wrong it is on them. A majority of people will most likely be visited at work, or possibly at their home to be served. That is if you aren't pulled over for a traffic violation first. If someone is kicking your door in, there is a VERY good chance it isn’t the police.
December 1st, 2008 12:08 AM
Pretty stressful situation for anyone to be in, but a few finer points to those that may want to be more selective who they let in their home.
In my neighborhood SWAT teams don’t wait for you to open the door, it comes down just before they enter and they have the street full of police vehicles and cops at every window with all of them yelling police warrant get on the floor.
If they are in a talking mood ask what the warrant is for and what name and address is on the warrant. If it isn’t for a drug raid it will be a slower action (stolen merchandise is harder to flush down the toilet) and last of all if you’re not involved in some sort of illegal activity they have the wrong house. (You hope)
I would like to think I could spot it coming but I certainly can see how it could happen, even to me.
December 1st, 2008 10:35 AM
Were talking DC here, are we sure they were fake cops? j/k
I would check out another window. If no other cops in sight, and everything else running like it normally does, I would be on the phone calling 911.
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