Trouble at Chuck E. Cheese's, Again

Trouble at Chuck E. Cheese's, Again

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    Angry Trouble at Chuck E. Cheese's, Again

    I have never liked their food, I've never liked the ambiance, I've never liked the crowd, I've never liked anything about CEC.

    Now I have something else not to like......

    This is just disgusting. A kids place and the adults ruin it with immature behavior, doltish acts, and it is just reprehensible. Unfortunate, a lot of the kids are probably less socialized than my dogs, with worse manners.

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    Calling All Cars: Trouble at Chuck E. Cheese's, Again
    Kid-Centric Pizza Parlors Become Stage for Adult Bad Behavior, as Mama-Bear Instincts Kick In and Fights Break Out

    By ANNA PRIOR

    In Brookfield, Wis., no restaurant has triggered more calls to the police department since last year than Chuck E. Cheese's.

    Officers have been called to break up 12 fights, some of them physical, at the child-oriented pizza parlor since January 2007. The biggest melee broke out in April, when an uninvited adult disrupted a child's birthday party. Seven officers arrived and found as many as 40 people knocking over chairs and yelling in front of the restaurant's music stage, where a robotic singing chicken and the chain's namesake mouse perform.

    Chuck E. Cheese's bills itself as a place "where a kid can be a kid." But to law-enforcement officials across the country, it has a more particular distinction: the scene of a surprising amount of disorderly conduct and battery among grown-ups.

    "The biggest problem is you have a bunch of adults acting like juveniles," says Town of Brookfield Police Capt. Timothy Imler. "There's a biker bar down the street, and we rarely get calls there."

    It isn't clear exactly how often fights break out at Chuck E. Cheese's 538 locations. Richard Huston, executive vice president of marketing for the chain's parent company, CEC Entertainment Inc. of Irving, Texas, describes their occurrence as "atypical," saying he has heard of "four or five significant adult altercations" this year. But in some cities, law-enforcement officials say the number of disruptions at their local outlet is far higher than at nearby restaurants, and even many bars. "We've had some unfortunate and unusual altercations between adults at these locations," Mr. Huston says. "Even one is just way too many."

    Fights among guests are an issue for all restaurants, but security experts say they pose a particular problem for Chuck E. Cheese's, since it is designed to be a haven for children. Law-enforcement officials say alcohol, loud noise, thick crowds and the high emotions of children's birthday parties make the restaurants more prone to disputes than other family entertainment venues.

    The environment also brings out what security experts call the "mama-bear instinct." A Chuck E. Cheese's can take on some of the dynamics of the animal kingdom, where beasts rush to protect their young when they sense a threat.

    Stepping in when a parent perceives that a child is being threatened "is part of protective parenting," says Frank Farley, a psychologist at Temple University and former president of the American Psychological Association. "It is part of the species -- all species, in fact -- in the animal kingdom," he says. "We do it all of the time."

    Now some towns are asking CEC to step into the ring. Amid pressure from local politicians, some Chuck E. Cheese's have stopped serving alcohol and added security guards who carry pistols.

    CEC has been tightening safety rules to deter fighting in other ways. In Milwaukee, the store posted a sign outlining a dress code that prohibits what it calls "gang-style apparel." That location also implemented a code of conduct that prohibits knives, chains, screwdrivers and glass cutters. CEC is considering systemwide signs at popular games such a machine that draws digital pictures of customers to let people know there may be a time or token limit. Making the machines more expensive to use is another option, but Mr. Huston says that is "inconsistent with our value message."

    In Pennsylvania, Susquehanna Township police are searching for suspects involved in a Nov. 9 altercation at a Chuck E. Cheese's outside Harrisburg. The police department gets called to respond to disputes at the restaurant as many as 15 times a year, Police Chief Robert Martin says.

    This most recent assault, described in police reports, occurred after a woman in her 30s approached a 6-year-old boy who was playing a videogame. When the boy went to insert more tokens to continue playing, the woman grabbed the tokens out of his hand and told him to stop hogging the game. The boy went and got his 26-year-old mother, who walked over to the woman. The woman began screaming at the boy's mother, and another suspect, a man in his 30s, grabbed the mother by the throat and pushed her against the videogame machine. CEC employees had to pull the man off the mother. Both the man and the woman fled the scene.

    In Toledo, Ohio, four women were charged with disorderly conduct after a melee erupted at a Chuck E. Cheese's there last year. According to police reports, it started when parents complained to the restaurant manager that children were loitering at the drawing machine. The children were Barbie Clifton's daughters, then 14 and 10 years old. Ms. Clifton had come out of the bathroom when she saw a woman yelling at her daughters and her friend.

    "I thought, 'Oh my God, what's happening here?'" says the 42-year-old stay-at-home mom. "Instead of [the woman] going to the parent or going to the manager, she was calling my friend and daughters all of those names."

    That touched off a fight between more than 10 people, in which participants punched and screamed at each other. One woman removed the red rope that marks the entrance queue and handed it to another woman, who swung the metal clip attached to it at others involved in the incident.

    "I thought they were going to start attacking me," says Sheri Kellar-Raab, the first officer who responded.

    CEC's Mr. Huston says the company is working to deter these types of incidents. "It's critically important for us to provide a safe, wholesome environment for the parents and the kids," he says. "This is not what we're all about."

    Reginold Bell, a 45-year-old Milwaukee social worker, says that a child "assaulted" his 8-year-old son at a local Chuck E. Cheese's while the boy was playing in the Sky Tubes, a jungle gym with slides. Mr. Bell confronted the man who appeared to be the child's father, setting off an argument in which the man "used some vulgar vernacular," says Mr. Bell, who reported the incident to the police department.

    "I was really angry, but I've got my kids here, so I kind of backed away," Mr. Bell says. A manager asked the two men to sit down and talk out their differences, he says. They didn't.

    The first Chuck E. Cheese's was opened in San Jose, Calif., in 1977 by Nolan Bushnell, founder of the Atari videogame company. He thought there weren't enough places where young people could play games in a family atmosphere, according to a company history.

    To appeal to adults, about 70% of the chain's locations serve wine and beer. Some city officials have pinpointed that as the main cause of the fighting. Milwaukee Alderman Tony Zielinski called for the removal of Chuck E. Cheese's beer-and-wine license in 2006 after he received police notification and complaints from constituents about fighting there. The company stationed armed security guards inside the restaurant in an effort to make it safer.

    "It was like something out of a Quentin Tarantino film," says Mr. Zielinski, referring to the "Pulp Fiction" director. "What parent is going to take their kids to a place where there is alcohol and pistols being brandished?"

    CEC's Mr. Huston said the armed guards were installed after the Milwaukee Police Department suggested bolstering security at the restaurant; a police department spokeswoman said the department didn't recommend armed security.

    Police officers and company officials say alcohol isn't always a factor in altercations at Chuck E. Cheese's. Mr. Huston says the chain's "broad demographic appeal" means that it has restaurants in what he described as "tougher areas" where there is more potential for crime.

    Mr. Zielinski held a news conference in front of the restaurant in late 2006 and threatened to push for the removal of the location's arcade and gaming license. Shortly after that, CEC gave up the restaurant's beer-and-wine permit. Mr. Huston says the company did stop serving alcohol to reduce fighting but not because of pressure from Mr. Zielinski. CEC also took alcohol off the menu at a Chuck E. Cheese's in Flint, Mich., in February, a month after police responded to a fight there involving as many as 80 people.

    Chuck E. Cheese's Milwaukee location has generated substantially fewer calls to the police department since it introduced its rules about dress and contraband items last year. In Brookfield, police haven't received reports of altercations at Chuck E. Cheese's since it gave up its alcohol license at the end of June, implemented codes of dress and conduct and tightened parking-lot security.

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    Brookfield, Wisc.: April 5, 2008

    Seven Brookfield Police officers broke up a fight that involved as many as 40 people, according to police reports. The altercation broke out after an uninvited guest showed up at a child's birthday party. No one was arrested. (See police report.)

    Flint, Mich.: Jan. 26, 2008

    Flint Township police responded to a call about a large fight at Chuck E. Cheese's that involved as many as 85 people, according to police reports. A fight inside the restaurant between three females erupted, pepper gas was sprayed and people flooded outside the restaurant into the back parking lot. (See police report.)

    Toledo, Ohio: Feb. 4, 2007

    Police responded to the scene after a fight broke out. Several parents complained about children who were having their picture drawn at one of the machines and then continued to sit there after the drawings were complete. Parents began calling names and then throwing punches. Several people were injured and several cited for disorderly conduct. (See police report.)

    Matteson, Ill.: 2007-2008

    Police have responded to 12 disturbance calls at Chuck E. Cheese in the last year, said a local law enforcement official. The disturbances ranged in seriousness and included one in which two men attacked another man at a birthday party.

    Milwaukee, Wisc.: Aug. 11, 2006

    Upon officers' arrival at a south side Chuck E. Cheese's, they spoke with a male who stated that during a verbal argument, an elderly female threw a shoe at him, according to police reports. He stated the fight started over someone calling his child "ugly." He stated he was not injured, his pride was just hurt.

    Topeka, Kan.: Jan. 17, 2005

    Topeka Police responded to a disturbance call around 5:30 p.m., according to a department spokeswoman. Two adult females were involved in an altercation prior to police arrival. It was reported that one small child was either bumped or stuck by another child. The mothers of the girls began to argue and an altercation ensued. No one was charged.




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    Fights among guests are an issue for all restaurants, but security experts say they pose a particular problem for Chuck E. Cheese's, since it is designed to be a haven for children. Law-enforcement officials say alcohol, loud noise, thick crowds and the high emotions of children's birthday parties make the restaurants more prone to disputes than other family entertainment venues.
    Whaaaa?

    What high emotions? I've got two kids...what high emotions are they talking about?
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    This is crazy. I hate that place anyway for the same reasons you mentioned, but anyway.

    Some parents are just insane. No other way to put it. I remember as a kid some of these types of parents. I never witnessed a parent fight "in my day" but there definitely were some social nutjobs out there. I'm sure as a parent they might be okay, but they have significant problems interacting socially in a good way.

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    I refuse to go to any Chuck E. Cheese. Never did like the place.
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    Stupid people should be sterile.

    I'm with SIGguy....what high emotions? If anyone should have high emotions it should be the kids...The parents should be the ones to correct them and teach them how to act appropriately, not act like animals themselves. How pathetic. What a waste of police time too.

    Makes me sad for my kids...and a more determined parent.
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    Now I know why I'm packin' when I'm in that place.....sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadeye72 View Post
    I refuse to go to any Chuck E. Cheese. Never did like the place.
    +1.. .One went once and that was enough for me.

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    The Chuck E. Cheese location in St. Charles, MO. has always had a cop walking through the restaurant at all times when we were there. I hate that place and my son loves it - I always try to steer him clear and suggest someplace else.
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    My wife thinks it is a dirty place and hates to take the kids there.

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    Chuck E. Cheese huh? Must be the aroma in those places that incites riots? Or could it be that it's a black hole for the dollar? Pizza parlor pandemonium? Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedaisy View Post
    Stupid people should be sterile.


    I've been a proponent of that for years. Unfortunately, when they procreate, the world is left with Children Raised by Wolves........

    I see a bunch of them these days, sadly enough........


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    Its bad when banks wont put armed guards in their banks, yet CEC has to put them in their restaurants.

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