This is a discussion on Pirates drown within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by SleepingZ
It's funny, I don't feel anything.
I wish I could understand why ships that travel in that area don't carry something ...
January 11th, 2009 12:55 AM
Problem is that nearly every major international port (or even minor), forbids firearms of any sort onboard. It makes absolutely no sense, especially since if you're going to be out in international waters for weeks or months on end, wouldn't it be a good idea?
Originally Posted by SleepingZ
But of course, don't want to hurt those poor, innocent pirates
January 11th, 2009 02:03 AM
January 11th, 2009 02:08 AM
took the words out of my mouth..
Originally Posted by NKMG19
I'm sure they were really concerned with finding the bodies, as
The drowned pirates' boat overturned in rough seas, and family members were still looking for four missing bodies
, said Daud Nure, another pirate who knew the men involved.
long as the $3million dollars are next to the bodies.
They really should arm these ships with some guns, glad I don't work aboard a defenseless boat..
I don't deal with psychos. I put them away.
- Marion Cobretti- Cobra
January 11th, 2009 10:00 AM
While "live by the sword, die by the sword" doesn't exactly fit, you could say they got their just reward.
January 11th, 2009 10:14 AM
A literal application of the axiom doesn't work, but the principle is the same. If you wish to earn your bread and butter by stealing from those who have earned their way, you are likely to face the same sticky end as many of your victims.
Incidentally, some ships do fire back. It never makes the news, because not one of those has been taken over.
January 11th, 2009 10:21 AM
Those were the ones carrying the bags of coins.
I'm sooooooooooooooooo sorry.
Seriously, I don't understand why the ship owners don't put a couple of Blackwater Security guards on each ship with full auto weapons. A small boat approaches 100 miles offshore and it's target practice until the boat is sunk.
Ship never stops, no report is ever filed, pirates get the message, sharks are happy.
January 11th, 2009 12:38 PM
We can hope that the remaining pirates join their comrades in failed swimming lessons.
Assault is a behavior, not a device.
"Don't never take no shortcuts." Patty Reed, Donner Party
Lifetime NRA member
January 11th, 2009 12:44 PM
Pirates should. Or, as an alternative, be made to spontaneously combust by whatever means possible.
I wonder if the 20mm or 30mm CIWS systems would be suitable for tankers and other large ships? You want to violently board a ship ... come and take it.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
Reason over Force: Why the Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos)
NRA, SAF, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.
January 11th, 2009 01:01 PM
Funny you should mention that. BW has gotten a Maritime Interdiction/Anti-Piracy contract, and is looking for former Naval Special Warfare and Coast Guard maritime security specialists. Base pay will be $500 a day and up depending in special skills (medics, designated marksmen, leaders), with a tentative work schedule of 60 on/30 off. They have their own ship and rotary wing aircraft that will be used; I don't think any will be posted on the merchant ships themselves. A few guys that work for us over here are putting in to change over, including (possibly) my Shift Leader.
Originally Posted by Guns and more
So, you former squids and coasties, looking to get rid of a few pirates and make $15k a month while you're at it?
A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.
January 11th, 2009 06:14 PM
Yea, if I was 20 years younger, I'd jump on it in a heart beat!
Originally Posted by OPFOR
Been getting kinda boring around here lately.
January 11th, 2009 11:58 PM
Would make perfect sense to avoid issues on the protected ship by simply running interference boats in the area. Oh, and carry all your money in quarters, too.
January 12th, 2009 06:59 AM
Intn'l Waters has always been a burden to protecting what's yours. Very similiar to walking down a dark street in a bad neighborhood. Most if not all the people you will meet can be good law abiding folks but it's that 10% that screws the pooch.
Originally Posted by Slabsides45
There is a lot of traffic on the water there, mostly friendly and you never know if the ship didn't hail the boat to begin with. So it makes blowing stuff (or running interfearence) up arbitruarly hard to do. Usually by the time it is figured out they are at close quarters with the victim ship and now you can't fire because you'll stand a large chance of hitting friendlies.
I think the US policy chance took effect after the USS Cole could be applied. Communications would have to be established first I think with each guarded ship.
Forgot to mention, I was damn good with a 20mm in my day!
January 12th, 2009 09:51 AM
Great explanation of what I meant!
Originally Posted by socal2310
January 12th, 2009 10:14 AM
Maybe I'm just free enterprise guy, but wouldn't it be better to attack the pirate's ship after they got the 30 Million ransom and tried to make it back to shore.
You could report that the ship sank because of rough seas.
30 million sounds better than 15K
"Arms in the hands of individual citizens may be used at individual discretion..in private self defense." John Adams
January 12th, 2009 10:15 AM
Does anybody else find it funny that the very thing that they killed for was what killed them?
100k+ cash is heavy bone dry, I couldn't imagine what it weighed wet.
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