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Police: North Houston resident disarms, kills burglar
Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
Jan. 23, 2009, 2:06PM
"Homicide detectives are still investigating an overnight shooting in which a resident of a north Houston apartment said he disarmed a burglar and killed him with his own gun."
Better to use your own, but hey not only did this guy improvise, he was a good shot too! :congrats:
Duhhhhhh, maybe because no one was home so they thought it was an easy target??!! Good for the homeowner.Quote:
Homicide detectives are still investigating an overnight shooting in which a resident of a north Houston apartment said he disarmed a burglar and killed him with his own gun.
The shooting occurred about 10 p.m. Thursday at the Worthington Apartments at 1350 Greens Parkway, KHOU Channel 11 reported.
Police said two residents reported that they came home and found that two men had broken into their apartment.
One of the intruders had a gun, which was wrestled away from him during a struggle with the residents, police said.
The resident fired, killing one of the burglars, while the other ran away, police were told.
Investigators were trying to identify the dead man and determine why the pair chose to break into that apartment.
Awful presumptious on your part. I mean, they coulda been there to turn down the sheets and put chocolates on their pillows. Why do you guys always have to assume the worst about people... Sheesh!Quote:
Originally Posted by archer51
:wink:
Guess it's just my cynical nature. :9:
Aww, Archer51, it's okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by archer51
Just try to be better next time. :wink:
Now if they will use the capitol murder charge against the other criminal he could be put away for a long time.
I guess it would be a good shoot if the threat remained due to disparity of force (two on one, younger vs older, size, etc.), or if the bad guy made moves as if going for a backup gun. But in my fantasies of being able to disarm the bad guy, it seems that shooting him at that point could be questioned. Am I on the right track?
How dare he shoot an unarmed man!
There is not enough information given. If you assume a clean disarm and the person fleeing, might be questionable. I was envisioning a struggle over the firearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paymeister
If the gun could be wrestled from the bad guy, the bad guy could wrestle the gun back. I have already decided that if I have an opportunity to wrestle a gun from a mugger or intruder, I'm going to fire as soon as I have control of the weapon. Realistically, it's the only way to ensure my safety. Unfortunately, he probably won't have enough time to process what has happened and turn away to run before I pull the trigger if that is his intent, but that's not my problem. If he didn't want to die, well, he ought to have thought about that before he decided to pull a gun on me.Quote:
I guess it would be a good shoot if the threat remained due to disparity of force (two on one, younger vs older, size, etc.), or if the bad guy made moves as if going for a backup gun. But in my fantasies of being able to disarm the bad guy, it seems that shooting him at that point could be questioned. Am I on the right track?
Ryan
"Investigators were trying to identify the dead man and determine why the pair chose to break into that apartment"
drugs?
The chose to break into that apartment, because one of them had a death wish!!:danceban:
You raise a fairly interesting issue. In my martial arts class we often practiced knife disarms. Typically the immediate follow through was to plunge the knife back into the attacker--almost in one smooth motion of disarm-stab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paymeister
In both situations, knife or gun disarm, I guess technically you need to make a split second evaluation of whether or not the bg is going to break off the contact. But, as a practical matter, in a hand to hand struggle you really don't have time to evaluate that.
Looking at the entire situation, disparity of two to one, an ongoing struggle for the gun, armed bgs obviously engaged in burglary of a habitation, I would think the shoot was fully justified--- but you never know.
I wasn't considering the timing of the situation: I agree that 'grab-bang' certainly seems reasonable since battle is still ongoing and you have no idea if he's reaching for the gun back again or grabbing a knife. He's already proven murderous intent!
IF (big "IF") you are able to say,
THEN we might have something to discuss. But for the real "midst of a fight" scenario, however, I withdraw any criticism or concerns.
- "You now have his gun"
- "He has withdrawn from you"
- "His hands are up" and
- "You have had three minutes to catch your breath"
Thanks for the reality check.