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    Bad: Great Fodder for AWB (Merged)

    Speaks for itself. Idiot with scary black rifle.

    Seven gunned down with AK-47 in Miami, two dead

    Police seek information on Miami shootings - CNN.com

    MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Miami police issued a plea for information Saturday after at least one person with an assault rifle opened fire on a crowd of people on a streetcorner Friday night, killing two teens and wounding seven other people.
    Miami police cordon off the area where a crowd of people was fired upon Friday night.

    Miami police cordon off the area where a crowd of people was fired upon Friday night.

    "We need the community to come together, someone come forward and give us a tip," Miami Police Officer Kenia Alfonso told CNN.

    "There are a lot of people in that area. Someone must have seen something, someone must know who could've done this horrific crime."

    Alfonso said two teens, ages 16 and 18, died in the attack, which occurred in front of a grocery store about 9:50 p.m. Friday in the city's Liberty City neighborhood.

    Six of the nine shot were current or former Northwestern Senior High School students, Alfonso said.

    "It was like a war zone," resident Joan Rutherford told CNN affiliate WSVN. "I witnessed this guy laying there with his face, looked like it was completely tore off. His eyes was all I could see, and he had a grip on some money and gasping and trying to lift his head up to say something."

    Police Chief John Timoney said that at least one man with an AK-47 "discharged numerous rounds, then ran around the corner. There were some more rounds discharged there from an AK-47 and another weapon."

    One of those wounded was in critical condition Saturday and undergoing surgery, Timoney said.

    "We are convinced that because of the amount of people out here last night that there is somebody that knows the individuals or individual involved, and we need them to come forward," Timoney said, according to WSVN.

    "These are weapons of war, and they don't belong on the streets of Miami or any other street in America," Mayor Manuel Diaz said.

    Miami police spokeswoman Kenia Alfonso said Friday night that police did not know the motive for the shooting and had no suspects.
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    I don't get the "scary black rifle" comment. I can guarantee it was scary to the folks that faced it! Regardless...only a matter of time. Politics as they maybe, the politicians will not shed a tear (i.e., fear a loss of votes) with an AWB.

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    Sounds like this will be gang or drug related doesn't it?

    This plays right into the Obama platform and their newly posted Urban policy. This will be the perfect opportunity to blame the weapon and not the criminal. This couldn't be any more tailor made for the Obama agenda unless they had paid some punk to do it. If they had been run over with a car would they be wanting to ban cars?
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    Probably

    Quote Originally Posted by bigiceman View Post
    Sounds like this will be gang or drug related doesn't it?

    Yes, I agree, doubt it was random.
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    Bandit383,

    I was making fun of people who believe that pistol grips, flash suppressors, and collapsible stocks have any impact on the lethality of a firearm.

    Ryan
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    Quote Originally Posted by socal2310 View Post
    Bandit383,

    I was making fun of people who believe that pistol grips, flash suppressors, and collapsible stocks have any impact on the lethality of a firearm.

    Ryan
    I agree, just how effective would a bayonette be on a drive by shooting?

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    I could do more damage with a bolt action scoped rifle
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    I could do more damage with a bolt action scoped rifle
    Agreed.
    And just in .22LR at that with a totality of kit purchased from and bore sighted by Dick's.

    I winder was this really an AK47 or an SKS or WASR or some other such look alike.
    Also I wonder was this semi-auto fire or fully auto (NFA!).

    Not that any of this would matter much to those at ground zero as they were under fire.
    Nor would these important items of fact clearance matter to the media or they even be aware to discern the difference.

    Agreed with others, an AWB II is an inevitability...to my mind.

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    Yes! I hope police can zero in and arrest this "AK-47" (oh really? That's interesting that the shooter managed to get a real AK-47, hmm /sarcasm) because these types of weapons don't belong on the streets. Just look at how many people it killed. Yup, just jumped out of a closet one day, and went down to the grocery store, pointed itself, and pulled its own trigger. We definitely need to get them off the streets!

    Anyway, Mayor Diaz is an idiot. Maybe he should be asking why there are people in his city who feel they can start killing people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    I could do more damage with a bolt action scoped rifle
    Roger that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duisburg View Post
    I agree, just how effective would a bayonette be on a drive by shooting?

    Yeah, but can you show me any news reports of drive by bayonettings while the AWB was in effect? See, the ban worked!
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    No suspect, no recovered weapon, how exactly do they know it was an AK?

    I seem to remember that 1 if not both of the Mall shootings in the last couple of years were initially reported to be AKs but turned out otherwise some days later.

    Let the fear mongering begin!

    OK after further thought, they may have recovered shell casings (not reported) and deduced that the only weapon that fires that particular shell casing is an AK.

    Still does not justify making statements like that without absolute proof and evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    Agreed.

    I winder was this really an AK47 or an SKS or WASR or some other such look alike.
    Also I wonder was this semi-auto fire or fully auto (NFA!).

    Nor would these important items of fact clearance matter to the media or they even be aware to discern the difference.

    Agreed with others, an AWB II is an inevitability...to my mind.

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    Not sure if it was a full auto or not. But with only 2 dead in a crowd, I doubt it was. But what do facts matter to appointed police chiefs? I think it was him that said 29% of Miami homicides in 2008 were committed using 'assault weapons'. What a 'crock'.
    What's he calling an assault weapon? He might as well say that 100% of murders are committed using an 'assault weapon' since any murder is by definition an 'assault'. And the media wouldn't question it either.
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    Sounds like incompetance to me.

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    AWB will be pushed by the VP...and I suspect one will see it soon.

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    Police Chief John Timoney added, "the amount of AK-47's in this region is out of control."
    Problem is the amount of crimes committed by AK 47s in the Miami Dade County area are so few that are almost statistically irrelevant. Chief John "I got an SUV for free" Timoney is a fervent anti gunner and Mayor Diaz IRRC belongs to Bloomberg's Mayor Coalition against Guns.

    Besides, it is easier to blame the gun than to point out the fact that Liberty City is taken over by Gangs and Drug Dealers and there is nothing they can do about it because they are afraid to be called racist and being accused of Racial Profiling and God knows how many other PC Crimes
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