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    UGLY: Student Expelled For Fake Guns -

    9NEWS.com | Colorado's Online News Leader | Student faces expulsion for fake drill team guns



    AURORA - A local school district has suspended a member of the Young Marines youth leadership group after students saw drill props in her vehicle.
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    Marie Morrow, a 17-year-old senior at Cherokee Trail High School in Aurora, is serving a 10-day suspension. Her punishment could be extended at an expulsion hearing later this month.

    Morrow is a student leader in the Douglas County Young Marines, a group dedicated to teaching leadership and life skills.

    Cherry Creek Schools suspended Morrow after other students reported seeing guns inside her SUV, which was parked outside school while she was in class.

    The school also called police, who seized the three drill team guns made of wood, plastic and duct tape. Police told Morrow to claim them in time for her after-school drill practice off-campus.

    School administrators, however, were less understanding. The guns were declared "authentic representations of genuine weapons," triggering a mandatory expulsion statute in state law.

    "I have never been in trouble at all," said Morrow, who is planning to attend the United States Merchant Marine Academy. "I hadn't imagined in a million years that anything like this would have happened."

    Chris Proctor, commanding officer of the Douglas County Young Marines, was rebuffed in his attempt to explain the props to school leaders.

    "There's no mistaking that these are not real rifles," said Proctor. "I think somewhere along the line, logic has to take over and they have to be able to make exceptions to the rules."

    "Marie is one of the best kids that you could ever imagine," he said.

    "I could see where the school could be freaked out about it," said Morrow. "But I think there should be some leeway with the law based on situations and realize this is just an honest mistake."

    "The law doesn't make any distinction between a genuine weapon and a facsimile," said Cherry Creek Schools spokeswoman Tustin Amole.

    Amole says federal and state laws mandate expulsion, and that school districts only have discretion to determine the length of that expulsion.

    Asked who had the discretion to deem the props "dangerous weapons," Amole said school administrators and police made the decision based on state law that defines a "dangerous weapon" as "a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or a firearm facsimile that could reasonably be mistaken for an actual firearm."

    Amole said the props in Morrow's vehicle caused concern among students and administrators who made an "assumption" that the weapons appeared "genuine."

    Morrow's mother grew emotional while saying she hoped her daughter would continue her volunteer and service work despite the incident.

    "I just don't want it to affect her view on the world, (make her believe) that people who do the right thing don't come out on top," said her mother, Jennifer McGrew. "I've always kind of really looked up to my daughter for having a mind of her own and going places that I never even dreamed."

    A hearing officer could recommend Morrow be allowed back in school after her 10-day suspension or could expel her for as much as the rest of her senior year. The final decision belongs to the Cherry Creek Schools superintendent.

    Morrow, who has already secured the necessary recommendation from a member of Congress to attend the Merchant Marine Academy, has been told an expulsion would not derail her eventual acceptance to the Academy.

    "As long as I can get my diploma, I guess everything else will work itself out," said Morrow, who explained she's trying to focus on her planned career of service. "It's not going to be the end of the world."
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    I'm curious, what federal law mandates expulsion? Especially for replicas made of wood, plastic and duct tape?
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    I'd really like to say what I think of this, but then I'd have to send myself back through the Rules!

    (Maybe if students had more exposure to firearms they could recognize dummy weapons instead of just being dummies!)
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    Schools, rules, and laws like this are why we are raising up a nation of sheep.

    How ridiculous.

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    "The law doesn't make any distinction between a genuine weapon and a facsimile," said Cherry Creek Schools spokeswoman Tustin Amole.
    You are right, the law doesn't make any distinction. That is what COMMON FREAKING SENSE is for! How can administrators these days be expected to lead when they have proven they can't lead themselves out of a wet paper bag?

    Amole says federal and state laws mandate expulsion
    Show me this law, I call BS.

    and that school districts only have discretion to determine the length of that expulsion.
    OK, fine so expel her. But take her track record and extra curricular actives in to account and make the punishment fit, 1 or 2 days and make her write an essay on, oh I dunno, HOW TO TELL A DRILL RIFLE FROM A REAL ONE THAT SHOOTS.

    A hearing officer could recommend Morrow be allowed back in school after her 10-day suspension or could expel her for as much as the rest of her senior year.
    This would absolutely suck for her but also for the hearing board that decides this extreme punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rstickle View Post
    I'd really like to say what I think of this, but then I'd have to send myself back through the Rules!

    (Maybe if students had more exposure to firearms they could recognize dummy weapons instead of just being dummies!)

    Yeah......I don't want to get scolded either.

    Sigh........
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    Asked who had the discretion to deem the props "dangerous weapons," Amole said school administrators and police made the decision based on state law that defines a "dangerous weapon" as "a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or a firearm facsimile that could reasonably be mistaken for an actual firearm."

    Amole said the props in Morrow's vehicle caused concern among students and administrators who made an "assumption" that the weapons appeared "genuine."
    So, the standard for 'reasonable' is the judgment of hormone-addled, pimple-riddled, teenagers!?

    Give me a break!!!
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    Stupidity reigns. They'd prefer to eviscerate a promising student because of zero tolerance than to have to use their brains and sense. And some people wonder why "home schooling" is such a hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David in FL View Post
    Yeah......I don't want to get scolded either.

    Sigh........
    HHMMM.....STUPID people
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    ccw9mm's signature says it all.

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    We have lost our ever-loving freaking minds.

    There should be a thousand parents down there at the school and the school district demanding to see this "law" that gives them no leeway. I don't know what they are referreing to. If it does exist then we all need to be standing in our representatives offices demanding its repeal, because this is all it accomplishes.
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    This has been going on since last week. Even her lawyer said that the school has no choice but to expel her. Local lawmakers are working to fix the state law but everyone agreed the fix wouldn't be able to be applied to her case.

    On a side note: I found it interesting yesterday when i heard the morning news refer to "law makers" instead of "representatives". I found it fitting in these times.
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    When are the PEOPLE gonna rise up and say enough is enough,we have allowed these laws to get so out of hand that common sense is no longer even considered
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    When are the PEOPLE gonna rise up and say enough is enough,we have allowed these laws to get so out of hand that common sense is no longer even considered
    I think the law may have been a knee-jerk reaction to the Columbine shooting. I haven't verified that. I doubt at that time, there were many people thinking about situations like this coming up. They just wanted to make sure there were "laws to protect" them.
    "Run for your life from the man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another-their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun."

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