U.S. jury finds rancher liable in vigilante trial

This is a discussion on U.S. jury finds rancher liable in vigilante trial within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by LongRider It's worst than that Matki I am sure can confirm that on at least two separate occasions Washington State governors have ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongRider View Post
    It's worst than that Matki I am sure can confirm that on at least two separate occasions Washington State governors have publicly and openly appealed to illegal immigrants nation wide to come to Washington to receive amnesty. Not sure if they offered green cards to any illegals once they came to Washington but it was clear that Washington state would protect them from any and all efforts to deport them, if they would come to work harvesting crops.
    States cannot offer amnesty. The federal government (USCIS) has sole jurisdiction.

    States cannot approve "green cards"...again, USCIS has sole jurisdiction.

    States cannot protect illegals from deportation. If an Immigration Judge orders someone to be removed or deported, a state cannot override the ruling.

    The state cannot offer work visas. The Department of State has sole jurisdiction to offer non-immigrant and immigrant visas.

    When a company (or farmer) is willing to hire illegals, word gets out on the street real quick. It can attract hundreds (perhaps thousands) of illegals to certain geographic areas.

    It may appear that your state government is making promises, but I'd really like to see evidence of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    It may appear that your state government is making promises, but I'd really like to see evidence of that.
    Did make done deal. You may want to try a search governor Evans I think it was over the cherry crop. You may be more successful than my search was. Has been awhile. Another governor did the same thing but at a loss to recall what that was about. I know a large portion of Washington's economy is agricultural based and that they depend on immigrant labor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matiki View Post
    Ithey were trespassers, not burglars.

    they also broke federal laws by entering the country illegally
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    Quote Originally Posted by 64zebra View Post
    they also broke federal laws by entering the country illegally
    That's correct. It's a misdemeanor to enter the country illegally, unless it's not their first offense.
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    This makes me want to scream. The man was defending his property against illegal trespassers whom, for all he knew, might very well be armed and dangerous. No different than you or I defending our house from an intruder. Unbelievable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongRider View Post
    Did make done deal. You may want to try a search governor Evans I think it was over the cherry crop. You may be more successful than my search was. Has been awhile. Another governor did the same thing but at a loss to recall what that was about. I know a large portion of Washington's economy is agricultural based and that they depend on immigrant labor.
    Agricultural workers are definitely needed in our country. However, they need a work permit, which is authorized by USCIS. Local or state governments cannot issue work permits.

    Farmers can petition for non-immigrant work visas, but there are certain requirements that have to be met. The application has to be approved by the Department of Labor and the Department of State.

    The penalties are stiff for hiring aliens who are not authorized to work inside the U.S.

    Companies (and farmers) should use e-Verify to check the employment eligibility of aliens. It's quick and easy.
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