AD by off duty officer at MN gun show
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An off-duty Minneapolis police officer’s gun accidentally discharged Saturday afternoon, wounding a retired St. Paul police officer.
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February 22nd, 2009 06:44 PM
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AD by off duty officer at MN gun show
Minneapolis cop's pistol fires injuring retired cop
An off-duty Minneapolis police officer’s gun accidentally discharged Saturday afternoon, wounding a retired St. Paul police officer.
Both men were working security at the Minneapolis Gun Show at the Minneapolis Convention Center when the accident occurred about 1:15 p.m., said Minneapolis police spokesman Sgt. Jesse Garcia.
The Minneapolis officer was sitting in a chair when the gun holster caught on the chair, Garcia said.
The pistol discharged, and one round hit the floor. The bullet fragmented and hit the 61-year-old retired St. Paul officer in the left leg and in one hand. He suffered minor injuries, and was treated and released Saturday, Garcia said.
The Minneapolis officer was grazed by a bullet fragment, but didn’t seek medical treatment. There were no other injuries.
“It’s a very freak accident,” Garcia said. “We’re fortunate no one was seriously hurt.”
The officer has been with the Minneapolis police department for more than 20 years.
“He feels very bad about it,” Garcia said. “An accident like that is pretty scary.”
Authorities are checking the weapon and holster for possible mechanical problems.
Garcia said that the officer was not disciplined because the incident was an accident. It does not rise to the level of a critical incident in which officers are placed on paid leave pending an investigation.
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February 22nd, 2009 06:46 PM
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I'd like to know what kind of holster was being used.
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February 22nd, 2009 06:48 PM
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I have heard a story like this before, it was a glock. not saying this one was but... im just sayin
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February 22nd, 2009 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I'd like to know what kind of holster was being used.
Same here....
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February 22nd, 2009 06:55 PM
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February 22nd, 2009 06:56 PM
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How you go from a holster being stuck to a trigger being pulled? 
This sounds way more implausible than the toilet shooting incident.
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February 22nd, 2009 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
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How you go from a holster being stuck to a trigger being pulled?

This sounds way more implausible than the toilet shooting incident.
I can see it happening. There is a certain company that makes very crappy duty holsters that this can happen... it well known among those in the know. I'll reserve further comment for later.
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February 22nd, 2009 07:16 PM
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I'm curious as well...sitting in the chair and the gun goes off. Not getting up or sitting down? I think much more to the story.
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February 22nd, 2009 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I'm curious as well...sitting in the chair and the gun goes off. Not getting up or sitting down? I think much more to the story.
Rick
If the LEO is a husky fellow, the chair has arms, and he is using a certain holster design, it can happen.
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February 22nd, 2009 07:27 PM
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Garcia said that the officer was not disciplined because the incident was an accident.
Wonder how long it will take someone to try and use that excuse as a defense in MN?
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February 22nd, 2009 07:31 PM
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Wonder how long it will take someone to try and use that excuse as a defense in MN?
Well, if that person is acting within the law, agency policy and doesnt rise to the definition of reckless or negligent, that defense just might work.
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February 22nd, 2009 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
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How you go from a holster being stuck to a trigger being pulled?

This sounds way more implausible than the toilet shooting incident.
Just curious.What's the toilet shooting incident ? Sounds interesting, yet oddly horrifying
. Is it something I could Google ?
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February 22nd, 2009 08:18 PM
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I have been in Gun Shows where they make you unload and zip tie your gun. The last one that did mine was not very familiar with XD s because he almost discharged mine. If you want someone to work security at these things make sure they have a good familiarity with what they are doing.

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February 22nd, 2009 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
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“He feels very bad about it,” Garcia said.
Duh, I sure as heck hope so. Bet the retired cop felt worse .

Originally Posted by
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Authorities are checking the weapon and holster for possible mechanical problems.
Hope they don't forget to check the off duty cop also.

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Garcia said that the officer was not disciplined because the incident was an accident.
Now I just wonder..... If I was ever to have an AD in public, what would happen to me?
Additionally, what would happen if I had an AD in public and another person was injured from the bullet fragments?
Think maybe I'd be able to just say, "Oops, sorry. It was an accident." and walk away with no repurcussions. I wish, but I don't think so. 
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February 22nd, 2009 08:37 PM
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The Minneapolis officer was sitting in a chair when the gun holster caught on the chair, Garcia said.
The pistol discharged,
hmmm.... that accident report is missing about 6 pages of info and analysis...
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