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    What was the driving when the "small SUV forced him to pull over"?

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    Carjacking turns into home invasion robbery | victim, colon, three, car, home - News - OCRegister.com

    Carjacking turns into home invasion robbery
    Intruders forced family members, including children, into a bedroom while they ransacked a house.
    By LARRY WELBORN
    The Orange County Register
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    SANTA ANA – Police are looking for three suspects who made off with cash, jewelry and other property during a home invasion robbery Saturday morning.

    A resident reported that he was driving in his car on Sheffield Street at about 9:30 a.m. when three men in a small SUV forced him to pull over, according to Commander Steve Colon. The three men then ordered the victim at gunpoint to take them to his home in the 2900 block of South Baker Street.

    The intruders then forced several members of the victim's family, including children, and a roommate into a bedroom while they ransacked the house looking for valuables, before leaving in the victim's car, Colon said.

    The resident chased them briefly, driving another family vehicle, until his assailants fired a single shot in his direction, Colon said.

    Detectives are seeking to locate the victim's car, described as a white 1998 Ford Escort, license plat 3XRA546.

    Contact the writer: lwelborn@ocregister.com, or (714) 834-3784
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/p...645-car-franks

    Sunday, March 1, 2009
    Man arrested in carjacking and kidnapping case
    Humberto Alatorre of Garden Grove is being held on $1 million bail.
    By ANGELA POTTER
    The Orange County Register
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    SANTA ANA – A Garden Grove man has been arrested in connection with a carjacking which led to a home invasion robbery in Santa Ana, police said Sunday. Two other suspects in the case are still on the loose.

    A resident reported that he was driving in his car on Sheffield Street at about 9:30 a.m. Saturday when three men in a small SUV forced him to pull over, according to police Cmdr. Steve Colon. The three men ordered the resident at gunpoint to take them to his home in the 2900 block of South Baker Street.

    The intruders then forced several members of the resident's family, including an 8-year-old boy, and a roommate into a bedroom while they ransacked the house looking for valuables before leaving in the resident's car, police said.

    The resident chased them briefly, driving another vehicle, until his assailants fired a single shot in his direction, Colon said.

    Garden Grove police assisted Santa Ana police in locating a suspect, Humberto Alatorre. Alatorre, 34, is being held at the Orange County Jail on suspicion of kidnapping, robbery, carjacking, burglary and committing a felony while in possession of a firearm, police said. Bail has been set at $1 million. The investigation is continuing.

    Detectives are trying to locate the resident's car, a white 1998 Ford Escort with license plate 3XRA546.

    Cmdr. Tammy Franks said the people in the house denied knowing any of the gunmen. The incident does not appear to be gang-related, Franks said.

    Contact the writer: 714-796-2254 or apotter@ocregister.com
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    Sounds like he was driving a 1998 ford escort,which would make me wonder why they picked him to car jack and then do a home invasion,maybe they were looking for drugs or drug money.
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    three men in a small SUV forced him to pull over
    Mistake 1: Allowing them to force him to stop.

    Mistake 2: Allowing them to get close enough to put a gun in his face.

    Mistake 3: Not having a gun with multiple rounds on him.

    Mistake 4: Taking the bad guys to his family.

    Mistake 5: Chasing armed felons when you are unarmed.

    I know... easy to criticize since I wasn't there. But he and his family are very fortunate to have survived. They survived only because the BG's chose not to kill them.

    I have made the decision that, if any way possible, my family's lives will not depend upon the mercy of some BG. The threat needs to be stopped before it gets to that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grady View Post
    Mistake 1: Allowing them to force him to stop.

    Mistake 2: Allowing them to get close enough to put a gun in his face.

    Mistake 3: Not having a gun with multiple rounds on him.

    Mistake 4: Taking the bad guys to his family.

    Mistake 5: Chasing armed felons when you are unarmed.

    I know... easy to criticize since I wasn't there. But he and his family are very fortunate to have survived. They survived only because the BG's chose not to kill them.

    I have made the decision that, if any way possible, my family's lives will not depend upon the mercy of some BG. The threat needs to be stopped before it gets to that point.
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    man, throw it in reverse or plow into them.
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    since it was in Santa Banana (California) and I know that area well lets just say not the greatest... but unfortunately its almost impossible to get a CCP there so most punks know that the average public is fair game.... Also CA is a retreat state so you are in the wrong if you stay to engage.

    Some years ago I was involved with a similar incident where a guy on drugs or at least really stupid was trying to force me off the road late one night. I was driving my 01 Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel, he was driving a Toyota Celica that well was not in such great shape; he tried 7 different times to run into me and even resorted at a red light to try and t-bone me.

    I did not carry since CA is so hard to even think about it; but I did have the police on the phone I pulled the seat belt tight on my roommate and told him if he hits hang on because you are going to get to witness what 9,000 pounds of truck does to 3,000 pounds of car.

    The chase went on for almost 20 miles at extremely high rates of speed, the police were several minutes out. Fortunately the truck was highly modded pushing around 550hp so outrunning was not an issue but the fact he would not give up is what scared me. After leaving him long in the dust I made an abrupt turn and met with the police waiting for me at a predetermined location that I specified on the phone. They found the guys car but then lost him in the pursuit. Expecting to be arrested the cop told me that I had outrun the chopper and come to find out in the same spot 2 police had been shot and killed a day earlier. I still think to this day I would have done the same but it is a good example of trying to retreat and being pursued. After that time I carried a stun gun and pepper spray.

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    Notice the police in the news article said "This does not appear to be gang-related."

    Don't know about California, but around here there are lots of Mexicans and LOTS of hispanic gang members (South Side Locos number about 500 in south Oklahoma City). Here if a Mexican is any kind of crook you can bet he is a gang member of some kind. I would suspect the same is true in California.
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    Freedom Doc you have no idea just how bad it is in SOCAL Santa Ana is almost all Hispanic; I grew up on the bordering city of Westminster (almost all Asian) the gang wars are getting worse and although I don't live there anymore my family that does said crime has been increasing by the day as the illegals are settling in for their free rides.

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    I dont mean to make light of any post on here because its all very serious. However the comment SYKO made about outrunning them in a Ford Escort made me chuckle to myself. No disrespect bud. Cars like that just crack me up. There great for the ehco junkie but thats bout it. I drive a full size suberban assult vechile and the next plan is to upgrade the wife to one as well. I hope that sitition never occurs to any of you all or anyone but unfourntently its a sick world we live in.

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    lol someone driving a escort is definitely not the first person I would think to rib that is for sure....

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    Quote Originally Posted by grady View Post
    Mistake 1: Allowing them to force him to stop.

    Mistake 2: Allowing them to get close enough to put a gun in his face.

    Mistake 3: Not having a gun with multiple rounds on him.

    Mistake 4: Taking the bad guys to his family.

    Mistake 5: Chasing armed felons when you are unarmed.

    I know... easy to criticize since I wasn't there. But he and his family are very fortunate to have survived. They survived only because the BG's chose not to kill them.

    I have made the decision that, if any way possible, my family's lives will not depend upon the mercy of some BG. The threat needs to be stopped before it gets to that point.
    The man actually took the scumbags to his family?????

    I feel sorry for the family. More so that they have a real weenie for a "man of the house" than for the car jacking.

    I better stop there. I don't want to get kicked off the forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulG View Post
    The man actually took the scumbags to his family?????

    I feel sorry for the family. More so that they have a real weenie for a "man of the house" than for the car jacking.

    I better stop there. I don't want to get kicked off the forum!
    Agreed. If they were bluffing, your family is in no danger; if they were not bluffing, they are extremely unlikely to conduct a home invasion at the first place the cops are going to come looking after they find your body.

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