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    argument in gun shop vs. Gun Store Clerk Shot Robber

    Talk about a bias headline!

    Two men shot during argument in gun shop - Chicago Breaking News

    Two men shot during argument in gun shop

    March 5, 2009 5:03 PM | 5 Comments
    A man shot three times by a clerk at a Waukegan gun store in an apparent robbery attempt Wednesday remained in critical condition this afternoon, officials said.

    According to witnesses, a verbal dispute turned physical after the man went behind the counter at the Smoke N' Gun, 2010 Washington St. in Waukegan, about 1:45 p.m., Waukegan Police Commander Wayne Walles said. The clerk fired at the man, striking him twice in the chest and once in the leg, while also accidentally shooting himself in the hand during the struggle, Walles said.

    The suspect who was shot by the clerk was taken to Vista West Medical Center in Waukegan, where he was later air lifted to Lutheran General Hospital in Park Ridge, Walles said. The clerk was taken to an area hospital, he said.

    Police have interviewed four witnesses, including one man who was being held at gunpoint by another store clerk when police arrived, Walles said.

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    Police: Gun Store Clerk Shot Robber

    Thursday, March 05, 2009


    Authorities say a clerk at an Illinois guns and ammunition store shot a man who was trying to rob the business Wednesday afternoon, ChicagoBreakingNews.com reported.

    Police responded to a call that a person was shot at Mike Schrank's Smoke 'N Gun. When they arrived, they found a man shot twice in the chest and once in the leg.

    Witnesses say the clerk pulled a handgun on the man after he went behind the store's counter and became physical. During the confrontation, the clerk accidentally shot himself in the hand.

    Police believe the man was trying to rob the store, according to a police statement.

    Both men were rushed to area hospitals, where the man shot three times was taken into surgery. The clerk was taken to another hospital for treatment.
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    Nice,
    I love the difference in headlines
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    That must be the new PC where robbery = argument. Kind of like welfare = redistribution of wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chenemf View Post
    That must be the new PC where robbery = argument. Kind of like welfare = redistribution of wealth.


    Other than the pain he's probably in, I say good for the shop owner.
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    Who is this ruth fuller working for on the first report?

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    Crazy. It sounds like two completely different stories, one is a robbery attempt, the other one is an argument. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
    I wonder how you can accidentally shoot yourself in the hand ? I'd love to see the video.
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    More -- Daily Herald

    Daily Herald | No charges yet in Waukegan gun store shootings

    No charges yet in Waukegan gun store shootings
    By Lee Filas | Daily Herald Staff

    Police said they are waiting to file charges in the shooting and apparent robbery at a Waukegan gun shop until after officers interview the suspect wounded in the scuffle.

    Police are reviewing videotape evidence and witness accounts from the Wednesday afternoon shooting at Schrank's Smoke 'N Gun, 2010 Washington St., Police Cmdr. Wayne Walles said. Four people seen on videotape entering and exiting the shop minutes before and after the 1:45 p.m. confrontation have been questioned by police, Walles said, along with the store clerk who shot and wounded the suspect who allegedly jumped behind the counter during the altercation.

    Police refused to release the names of those involved until after formal charges are filed, Walles said Thursday, but identified the four people questioned as witnesses who were not involved in the altercation.

    "Many people were in and out of the store before, during and after the shooting," he said. "We have interviewed everyone but the subject that was shot. So, we are waiting for him to talk to us before we press any charges."

    He confirmed police believe the case is an attempted robbery.

    Walles said the store clerk and a customer were involved in a verbal confrontation until the customer went behind the counter, which triggered a physical fight.

    The clerk shot the man in the chest and leg during the fight and held another person at gunpoint until police arrived, Walles said. The person shot in the chest was taken to Vista West Medical Center in Waukegan before being flown to Advocate Lutheran General Hospital in Park Ridge. Walles added the suspect underwent surgery last night and is listed in critical but stable condition.

    The clerk was also taken to Vista West because he accidentally shot himself in the hand during the struggle, Walles said. He has been treated and released from the hospital and has been interviewed by police.
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    ...The clerk shot the man in the chest and leg during the fight and held another person at gunpoint until police arrived...
    Who is this other person? Why did the clerk feel the need to hold him at gunpoint?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpwing View Post
    Who is this other person? Why did the clerk feel the need to hold him at gunpoint?
    I could be wrong but I would bet he held the crook he wounded at gunpoint, not "another person". Just bad reporting in my view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom Doc View Post
    I could be wrong but I would bet he held the crook he wounded at gunpoint, not "another person". Just bad reporting in my view.
    I don't think so, because the anti-gun version caught it as well:

    "Police have interviewed four witnesses, including one man who was being held at gunpoint by another store clerk when police arrived, Walles said."

    Not a big deal, it just piqued my curiosity.
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    It might've been BG's friend, who the clerk might have thought was the guy's backup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNUT View Post
    Crazy. It sounds like two completely different stories, one is a robbery attempt, the other one is an argument. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
    I wonder how you can accidentally shoot yourself in the hand ? I'd love to see the video.
    ya, im trying to figure how he shot himself in hand
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormbringerr View Post
    ya, im trying to figure how he shot himself in hand
    He may have been using his hand to keep BG at arm length while he drew and shot from retention hitting his hand,That's why I practice a strike with my off hand and then raise it above chest level to fire 2 COM in the target
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    Quote Originally Posted by chenemf View Post
    That must be the new PC where robbery = argument. Kind of like welfare = redistribution of wealth.
    Damn shame... it's like they have painted violent robbers as almost cute and cuddly... as I said, it's all insanity.
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    I'm more surprised that Chibama has a gun store.

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