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    Question Man shoots neighbors dogs

    Man shoots neighbor's dogs
    April 5th, 2009 @ 9:57pm
    TOOELE -- Two pitbulls were shot and killed Sunday night in Tooele.

    Police say the dogs were in a neighbor's backyard. Officials say the dogs were threatening the homeowner, so he grabbed a gun and shot the two.

    The case is under investigation. Officials don't know if there were previous problems between the neighbors.

    Looks like a good shoot to me....what do you guys and gals think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigmanluke View Post
    Man shoots neighbor's dogs
    April 5th, 2009 @ 9:57pm
    TOOELE -- Two pitbulls were shot and killed Sunday night in Tooele.

    Police say the dogs were in a neighbor's backyard. Officials say the dogs were threatening the homeowner, so he grabbed a gun and shot the two.

    The case is under investigation. Officials don't know if there were previous problems between the neighbors.

    Looks like a good shoot to me....what do you guys and gals think?
    Is it a good shoot because they were Staffordshire Terriers? Would the same scenario be played out if it were two Chocolate Labs?

    At one time in our history the American Staffordshire Terrier was truly Americas dog. More so than the Goldens and Labradoodles of today. The wussification of our society needed a face to put on its demon and unfortunately that was the face of the AmStaff.

    If the dogs were threatening him or his family, pets or livestock than ok but to shoot them just because they are "Pit Bulls" is definite over reaction.

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    I personally love AmStafs, my brother had one named diesel. I think it was a good shoot because the dogs were acting threateningly, I don't care what kind of dogs it was.

    If two dogs are in my yard threatening me......bang, bang, and so on.
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    I would hate to shoot a dog, but I would, (and have) if the 'real need' arises.
    Just a dog barking or growling at me isn't going to do it...lots of dogs bark and growl...there has to be a bit more for me. OMO

    There is not enough information here for me to say it was OK or not.
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    Not enough info to really base a decision on. What were they doing that was threatening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I would hate to shoot a dog, but I would, (and have) if the 'real need' arises.
    Just a dog barking or growling at me isn't going to do it...lots of dogs bark and growl...there has to be a bit more for me. OMO

    There is not enough information here for me to say it was OK or not.
    I agree that just a barking/growling dog is not a threat, but if the dog is in my opinion treatening me, then I have no problem shooting. There isn't enough info on what exactly the dogs were doing to threaten this man, but if he truely felt threatened, then fine by me. I don't want someone else telling me when I am or am not being threatened by a dor or any other "attacker/aggressor".
    In Utah, the laws all state, "reasonably". If I reasonably feel I'm being threatened....BANG

    I was hunting a few years ago with my brother in law, when on the trail we were walking, two un-collared German Shepards approached us barking and growling. We were in an area where the closest 'private' land was at least a mile away. It was around 4:30pm and just starting to get dusky. These dog were about a 6 on a scale of aggressiveness and though they got within about 20 feet of us, we decided not to shoot them. I think in this situation, we would have been within our right to do so, but didn't determine the need for it. Both of us were ready at a moments notice to shoot, but ended up getting past the dogs with nothing other than raised adrenaline.
    I'm just trying to show that there isn't always a need to shoot barking/growling dogs, but if you reasonably feel the need to....fine by me.
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    Id shoot a dog if I felt threatened. Bang, end of story.
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    I'm a dog lover, and a dog owner. But, domesticated or not they ALL still have wild traits which at best are partially controlled. An animal reverting to doing its thing is capable of inflicting serious harm or even death. There is no equation between the animal's right to be aggressive and my right to avoid injury.

    I have found that generally taking an aggressive stance will stop most dogs. If not, and it is possible to use a non-lethal item for defense and deterrence, that would be my choice. But, if there is a truly imminent serious threat that any reasonable person would understand, I have no problem with BANG.

    My personal opinion is that pit bull ownership should be illegal. I've had neighbors with German Sheps, and the dogs were well behaved lovely critters. I've been in a home where a large German Shep let the house cat sleep on top of it--the two just lying in the sun enjoying life and each other's company.

    I've had neighbors with other large breed dogs and the dogs showed no sign of aggression. I now have neighbors with pit bulls--two animals across the street, and one across our back yard. All yards are fenced, but I can tell it is only a matter of time till one of those dogs gets out and harms someone. One pit bull already killed a dog that got into the yard.

    Where pit bulls are concerned, I'm on the shoot first and ask questions later side of the issue because I consider them an inherently dangerous breed.

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    Sadly I have already had to draw my weapon to deal with a neighbors dog. The thing has attacked, thankfully not injured except one, 7 people. It just recently attacked my friends kids, one was bitten on the face. We are still trying to get ahold of the dog. The cops are useless, and so is animal control, they refuse to remove and put down the animal. So i can see totally this being a SD shoot, first time I ever, and hopefully last, time I drew my weapon was against this neighbors dogs.

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    Why were the dogs in his yard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Why were the dogs in his yard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Why were the dogs in his yard?
    Im not sure who you are asking, but I was in my friends yard. Specifically underneath my truck working on it, when the dog charged my friend, then went after me under the truck. Several kicks to the head later it went after my friend giving me time to draw my weapon from underneath the truck. Unfortunatly the neighbors kid got in my line of fire so I planted the muzzle in the dirt, while the kid dragged the dog back into his house. Kid got bit twice that I saw while he was dragging it. My friend and I were unharmed, but very ticked, this was the 4th attack by this dog.

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    good shoot here i don't trust many dogs scene my neighbor was mauled to death a couple years ago buy dogs
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    I asked the ? because the dogs should of never been in his yard if the owners were responsible enough to keep them restrained in their yard or home.If an aggressive gog comes on my property and threatens me or my old labrador and I'm making them good doggies
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    My neighbors had 2 pits. One older one and one puppy. My wife was getting out of the car with her bird, a Blue Macaw, when the bigger pit went after her....in my driveway. I was inside the house unloading the other birds. I hear her scream, head back out. See my Lab knock the pit on its butt. The pit ran at my wife, but my Lab blocked it from getting to her. The fight was on......the neighbor who owns the dog just watches. I start kicking the crap out of the pit and finally grab it by its rear feet and throw it accross the yard. It starts coming back, I start drawing my gun.....while screaming to the idiot that I am going to kill his dog if he comes back. Then they jump on him and stop it.

    A week later I go home for lunch and the pit is messing with a lady walking a baby carriage down the block. I had clubs stashed at each door. Grab it and go after the pit. Lady thinks it is mine and cusses me a bluestreak,lol, until I get her to listen.

    The next week, they naw thru the fence, and come into my backyard. Goes after my dogs and I grab my club. I was going for the kill then, but the pit was scared of me by then and ran out.

    I went to my neighbor's and told him no more. Next time it would be over for good. The kid that owned them moved. Said they were sweet little dogs and could not believe I would threaten them!

    If they attack..I attack. Barking and growling no big deal.
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