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    The article...

    DA: Self-Defense Claim Won't Fly
    by Seth Voorhees
    Published Apr 06, 2009

    A man charged in the shooting death of a Hilton teenager allegedly used an automatic handgun to kill the 17-year-old.

    Christopher Cervini was shot to death early Saturday. Roderick Scott reportedly told police some teens were trying to break into a car.

    Scott is now charged with murder.

    According to a felony complaint filed in Greece Town Court, Scott used a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber handgun, shooting the victim at least two times.

    Monroe County District Attorney Michael Green says claims of self-defense don't hold up when there's no imminent threat to the shooter's life.

    “You have to reasonably believe there's an immediate threat that you're going to be killed and you can't safely respond,” said Green. “That's the only way you can respond is to use deadly physical force back again.”

    Green expects the case against Scott to be sent to a grand jury, possibly later this week.

    Scott is being held in jail without bail. He is scheduled to appear in Greece Town Court Thursday afternoon.

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    Wow! An automatic handgun?
    If he wasn't threatened, he just got himself into a huge jam.

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    Oops missed pasting the story, and wow an "automatic handgun", reporters need to dramatize too much.

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    someone needs to send that guy the definition of 'automatic'
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    Monroe County District Attorney Michael Green says claims of self-defense don't hold up when there's no imminent threat to the shooter's life.
    He better not practice his DA mojo in TX or he'll have a hard time winning a case.
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    ...know your States laws. Know them well.

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    Years ago, here in Wellington FL, way before the Castle Doctrine, a doctor shot a guy who stole his Porsche, from the second floor of his house. The bullet went through the rear window and into the BG who died. Doc was not charged, I couldn't believe it.

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    "used an automatic handgun"
    "used a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber handgun, shooting the victim at least two times."

    hmm, 2 times with an automatic handgun.
    That must have been just a twitch on the trigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    A man charged in the shooting death of a Hilton teenager allegedly used an automatic handgun to kill the 17-year-old.
    Don't you guys know about the 2 round burst setting for the Beretta-96, it comes with the standard 90rd mag
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    Monroe County District Attorney Michael Green says claims of self-defense don't hold up when there's no imminent threat to the shooter's life.

    “You have to reasonably believe there's an immediate threat that you're going to be killed and you can't safely respond,” said Green. “That's the only way you can respond is to use deadly physical force back again.”
    Know your state's laws. Places like Texas not withstanding, about the only way to be certain is to hold yourself to the "higher" standard of imminent threat. A.O.J.
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    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
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    Hopefully there is more to this case than just what the Prosecutor says.....Mr. Scott may have been threatened after confronting the tens...who knows. I hope so. Not that a car thief should be shot ,but it is one way of ending a life of crime, and possibly saving some innocent persons life down the line. I don't feel bad for someone getting themselves killed while engaging in crime.....it's a high stakes game.

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    Can someone please identify WHICH STATE this happened in?

    Just happens to be more than one Monroe County in the great US...

    Again: original posters, please give city and state as a minimum!

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    This reminds me of something I was told by the instructor of my CCW class. You CANNOT shot someone over a property crime. There was NO life in jeopardy! This should have been a common sense decision. But some people don't have common sense!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Can someone please identify WHICH STATE this happened in?
    A simple Google search for "cervini" and "roderick" finds all: Rochester, NY.
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    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu711 View Post
    This reminds me of something I was told by the instructor of my CCW class. You CANNOT shot someone over a property crime. There was NO life in jeopardy! This should have been a common sense decision. But some people don't have common sense!!!
    In Tx you can use deadly force to stop a theft of property,so know your state laws
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