OK Bradies try explaining this w/o raw emotion

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    Smile OK Bradies try explaining this w/o raw emotion

    From VA ALERT

    Crime stats: VA improves again; MD #2 for murder, robbery
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    Anti-gun DC and gun owner unfriendly MD have more crime than pro-gun Virginia? Looks like more raw emotion will be coming from the Brady's as they won't be able to logically explain this other than to claim that the crime in MD and DC is all due to Virginia's gun friendly environment:

    New crime statistics have mixed results for local areas - wtop.com

    New crime statistics have mixed results for local areas
    April 1, 2009 - 1:57am

    Bob Kur, WTOP.com

    UNDATED - Some new crime statistics are out, and there is good and bad news about what is happening in local areas.

    Virginia is the 14th safest state in the country, improving its
    position for a fourth consecutive year. The ranking is the best the
    state has had since 2001.

    CQ Press, an independent publishing firm that tallies the statistics,
    reported numbers based on counts of murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, and vehicle theft.

    Maryland has the second highest murder and robbery rate in the
    country, with Baltimore being the 12th more (sic) dangerous city in
    America. D.C. is the 21st most dangerous.

    The safest states according to the survey are New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine.

    Entire list:
    http://tinyurl.com/cbqyd7
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    The anti explanation is simple: it's Virginia's weak gun laws that are to blame for violence in MD and DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy Warcrimes View Post
    The anti explanation is simple: it's Virginia's weak gun laws that are to blame for violence in MD and DC.
    Ah, such twisted and illogical logic. Yes, that must be it!

    I laugh at it, but it is sad that there are people who think that way. And of course, Daddy Warcrimes, I realize you don't think that way and are just making a valid point about the mindset of anti's.
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    They won't explain it, it's not in their best interest and it proves them wrong!
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    For some strange reason, The Brady's probably won't even get/see a copy of those results.
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    Convoluted thinking is easy to concoct if one has their mind closed to the pertinant facts. The old adage, "Do not confuse me with the facts because my mind is already made up" applies to this method of head in the sand thought.
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    damn florida is 46th :( down 4 from the year before

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    Not surprised that Maine (where I live), NH and VT are the safest. We have really great gun laws up here, except a law concerning carrying in a vehicle, but that's another story.

    I'm really amazed how these retards can keep saying 'well, the solution to gun violence is not more guns', given the actual statistics. Legal gun ownership results in less violent crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy Warcrimes View Post
    The anti explanation is simple: it's Virginia's weak gun laws that are to blame for violence in MD and DC.

    Virginia's weak guns laws are also why Mexico is having such a tough time with gun crime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmac00 View Post
    Virginia's weak guns laws are also why Mexico is having such a tough time with gun crime
    I believe Hilary is blaming Texas. Never mind that you can't buy hand grenades, full auto weapons, etc in the local gun store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chenemf View Post
    I believe Hilary is blaming Texas. Never mind that you can't buy hand grenades, full auto weapons, etc in the local gun store.

    ya, and it's Canada's fault we have Pot in America
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevyguy85 View Post
    damn florida is 46th :( down 4 from the year before
    You can probably thank the sharp increase in gang and drug activity around here, along with a bit more activity involving illegals.

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    Hmmm...maybe you don't want 'em to see it?

    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    For some strange reason, The Brady's probably won't even get/see a copy of those results.
    Careful about just looking at VA/MD stats in isolation. Utah, Florida, Georgia and Kentucky, all gun friendly states are "less safe", dropping 4 to 7 positions and NY and NJ have moved up on the list by 4 spots. Neither state has recently experienced a RKBA breakthrough that I know of. Is it possible that Nebraska's fall is attributable just to the Mall shooting?

    One set of statistics should not be the basis of a pro-2A argument. I'm just saying...

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    I believe Vermont is an OC state isnt it?
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    Yes, Vermont is an open carry State - minimum age is 16!!

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