GOOD: Man shot, killed while trying to rob Columbia, SC AA meeting (merged)

GOOD: Man shot, killed while trying to rob Columbia, SC AA meeting (merged)

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    GOOD: Man shot, killed while trying to rob Columbia, SC AA meeting (merged)

    Man shot, killed while trying to rob Five Pts. AA meeting

    COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - One man is dead after a shooting in Columbia's Five Points. Police say it happened when the man tried to rob people in an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting.

    Blue lights and sirens are common in Columbia's Five Points on a Saturday night, but it's not usually because someone was killed.

    "This is a very nice area, you know it's mostly college kids and all that, you never see that kind of trouble so yeah that was different," said a witness who does not want to be identified. "Yeah because I go there for meetings and from what I heard the guy went in there to rob somebody."

    Police say just before 11pm Saturday 18-year-old Kayson Helms walked into an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting at the ACOA Club, pulled out a handgun and demanded money.

    That's when an AA member pulled out a gun of his own and shot first.

    The witness we talked to was standing right outside, and saw Helms run out of the building.

    "But he only made it like a hundred feet up and collapsed," the man said.

    Helms died at the hospital. The whole incident is alarming to those that live nearby.

    "There are times where I tell myself, no, I'm not going to walk down there with my child at this point in time," says resident Andrea Richardson.

    The shooting happened right in the Richardsons' backyard.

    "Listening to the TV and I heard three pops in rapid succession," says Christopher Richardson.

    But some people in Five Points had no idea.

    "A little nervous I guess that it happened right around the corner from where we were last night, and I had no idea about it, so I didn't know that kind of threat was around this area," says Aleksas Juskys.

    It's a threat people that those that go to the ACOA Club never thought they would have to deal with.

    "It's the most pleasant place you can go if you're in recovery," says the witness.

    Police say the person who shot Kayson Helms is not facing any charges. They say he has a valid concealed weapons permit.
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    Wish it would of made ABC and 60 mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandit383 View Post
    Wish it would of made ABC and 60 mins.

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    You kidding? After the completely objective way they showed it's impossible to react like this?
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    "Listening to the TV and I heard three pops in rapid succession," says Christopher Richardson.
    Two to the body, one to the head?
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Two to the body, one to the head?
    Nope. He ran about a hundred feet.
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    CWP in Action?

    This was in my local news tonight...
    Police: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting | wltx.com

    What do you think?
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    Here's the story:

    Columbia (WLTX) - A man who tried to rob people at an Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting is dead after being shot.

    Columbia Police say a man in his late teens walked into the meeting at 2015 College Street, the Acoa Club, at 11 p.m. Saturday night with a gun.

    They say he demanded two people empty their pockets. That's when police say a person with a concealed weapons permit shot the man in his chest.

    He was taken to Palmetto Richland where he later died.

    Witnesses tell officials that a handful of people were in the building at the time of the shooting.

    So far, no charges have been filed.
    Sounds like a good shoot to me. I guess the SB picked the wrong group of drunks to rob. I wonder if the CWP holder was at the meeting for himself or someone else. If it was for himself, could that affect his CWP?
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    deadeye72 - how could it effect his CWP? It's an AA meeting. If he was in a bar - that would be different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadeye72 View Post
    Here's the story:



    Sounds like a good shoot to me. I guess the SB picked the wrong group of drunks to rob. I wonder if the CWP holder was at the meeting for himself or someone else. If it was for himself, could that affect his CWP?
    It should...he should get his next renewal for FREE!
    It's the least the state could do for saving so much taxpayer $$$.
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    It's a threat people that those that go to the ACOA Club never thought they would have to deal with.
    Another "nothing like this has ever happened around here before" comment.

    Scratch AA meetings off the dwindling list of places that some consider always safe.

    Any time, any place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grady View Post
    Scratch AA meetings off the dwindling list of places that some consider always safe.
    But everywhere ouside the home is safe. Isn't that why some people always seem to want a gun for home defense, but don't think anybody should be allowed to carry one anywhere else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kd5nrh View Post
    But everywhere ouside the home is safe. Isn't that why some people always seem to want a gun for home defense, but don't think anybody should be allowed to carry one anywhere else?
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by cred View Post
    deadeye72 - how could it effect his CWP? It's an AA meeting. If he was in a bar - that would be different.
    If I remember correctly, one of the questions on the CWP application is related to alcohol addiction. If he were at an AA meeting it could very well mean he has/had an alcohol problem, and thus lied on his CWP application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiloSC View Post
    If I remember correctly, one of the questions on the CWP application is related to alcohol addiction. If he were at an AA meeting it could very well mean he has/had an alcohol problem, and thus lied on his CWP application.
    I'm betting he has been sober for awhile and therefore was legally able to get a concealed permit without lying,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy View Post
    Two to the body, one to the head?
    "Richland County Coroner Gary Watts said Kayson Helms of Edison, N.J., was shot in the neck, abdomen and chest."

    I think that's what he was going for.

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