Second shooting in a month at Shoot Straight
This is a discussion on Second shooting in a month at Shoot Straight within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by dukalmighty
Well they did go to a shooting range to shoot themselves,see the Irony
No, the irony that I see is a ...
April 28th, 2009 02:48 PM
No, the irony that I see is a gun range thinking that background checks will solve the problem. That's irony.
Originally Posted by dukalmighty
"The flock sleep peaceably in their pasture at night because Sheepdogs stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
April 28th, 2009 02:48 PM
Wow. I was on a business trip a few months back to the Bay area and stopped in a local range to peruse the goods ... I was interested in shooting a couple of different handguns and they told me about the rule of needing to have a friend along to rent. I did a double take and he explained it was to help keep people from rent-a-cide. At this time, I kinda thought "Cali Kooks" ... I guess I was wrong as it's not limited to CA! I guess you need to friends in FL!
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April 28th, 2009 06:08 PM
I know some ranges will only rent to you if you already own a gun. To help prevent this.
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April 28th, 2009 06:24 PM
Back in 58 I sold a Beretta .32 to a gun shop in NM. A few days later they told me the gun had sold and the individual killed his girlfriend and himself. The only two shots ever fired from the gun. Like you said, if not the range they will find another place or method.
Originally Posted by retsupt99
Its a shame that youth is wasted on the young.
April 29th, 2009 04:58 PM
The media - especially the TV - needs to put this on the back pages, if they cover it at all. The second shooter got the idea from the earlier whack job, who shot her son to "save" him, then killed herself. What a media frenzy.... But within the frenzy, they did get the facts straight. It was not a Brady only moment.
The law does not permit ranges to do background checks on rentals - only purchases.
Even then, unless there is a non-voluntary commitment, the slate is clean.
George H. Foster
April 30th, 2009 07:59 AM
It's going to happen no matter what. If you are really suicidal, you will use whatever means you can to do the deed. It's just that doing it like this gets attention quickly.
Way back in the late 70's where I live, a guy went into a local store and asked to see a handgun and the ammo for it. The clerk complied and let the man see both at the same time. The customer then distracted the clerk with another request, loaded the handgun and proceeded to shoot himself. He never appeared suicidal, crazy or any of the things we would associate with someone intending to do just what he did. Nothing like this had ever happend before, it was definitely a first.
The incident did get the law changed though. Made it so nobody could see a weapon and ammo at the same time in a store.
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April 30th, 2009 08:07 AM
I'm not really surprised, given the way the media hyped the earlier murder/suicide. They covered it ad nauseum, interviewing her neighbors, family, co-workers and pets.
One has to wonder if the latest suicide chose that venue so he could be famous, too....
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April 30th, 2009 10:18 AM
I guess the .32 is a lethal round after all...
Originally Posted by Der Alte
These tragedy's are unfortunate. You will always have nut-cases in this world, and as a result; stories for the media to play up as "normal" so they can further their anti-gun agenda.
Simple measures like "own a gun to rent a gun" seem very logical and straightforward. Perhaps this range will consider doing at least that much. I truly hate to see more background checks, as I see that as more Gov't involvement (i.e. more accessible databases, etc.) ... which is NEVER a good thing.
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