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    Off-duty Secret Service agent fires handgun to thwart New Milford purse-snatching suspect - NewsTimes.com

    New Milford, CT

    Off-duty Secret Service agent fires handgun to thwart New Milford purse-snatching suspect
    By Nanci G. Hutson
    staff writer
    Updated: 05/26/2009 1146 PM EDT

    NEW MILFORD -- An off-duty Secret Service agent fired a warning shot at a box-cutter-wielding thief who injured a Big Y grocery store employee on Memorial Day after stealing a customer's purse, police said.
    At 3:21 p.m., the agent chased the thief, identified as Ian Sprague, 36, of Candlewood Mountain Road, into the woods behind the grocery store on Route 7 after Sprague used a box-cutter-style razor blade to cut an employee's hand and fled the store.
    The employee was injured while trying to subdue Sprague after he got into a tussle with the purse's owner and some other employees.
    When the agent caught up to Sprague in the nearby woods, he drew his handgun and ordered Sprague to drop his weapon, police said.
    Sprague refused to comply, and the agent fired a warning shot into the ground, police said.
    Sprague then tossed the box-cutter away and complied with the agent's instructions until police arrived, police said.
    The employee's hand wound required several stitches to close.
    Sprague was charged with second-degree assault, third-degree larceny and carrying a dangerous weapon.

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    My main question is what LE agency teaches warning shots as a protocol?


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    Good judgment as to what works is a job requirement, and how to read people is part of the training, but, still...

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    Maybe he thought it would save him paperwork?

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    I consider what the off-duty agent did as a reasonable response given the circumstances. I would have a different expectation for an on-duty uniformed patrol officer.

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    He should have just called 911 and let the locals take care of it.
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    Close to home.This Big-Y is a mile from My house. It's in a good area, but it can happen anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakestr View Post
    Maybe he thought it would save him paperwork?
    I can tell you that it did definately save him from some paperwork.

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    Heck of a waste of lead......in the ground?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    My main question is what LE agency teaches warning shots as a protocol?
    None that I know of.

    I was always taught that if it gets to that point, go for centre of mass.
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    I'm betting that it was his service pistol, and has been said, the administrative fallout and paperwork had he shot the guy would've probably been pretty significant, and possibly negatively affected his career. If he wasn't a SS agent I'm thinking he probably would've shot the guy.

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    Maybe he just decided that shooting the suspect was not required in order to apprehend him?

    The agent had his weapon drawn, the suspect had a box cutter, but was far enough away the agent had a chance to make the BG reconsider further resistance/evasion before lethal force was necessary.

    While BG is definately an oxygen thief, I think this is a great example of how just because deadly force would be legally justified, it could be avoided.

    Noe if our legal system will only take the proper actions

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    Well...I guess everything turned out alright. I consider warning shots to be a big no-no, though. The bullet may have been deflected by a rock or else, while the agent had his gun pointed at the ground, the BG could have drawn a gun and possibly used it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by United93 View Post
    Well...I guess everything turned out alright. I consider warning shots to be a big no-no, though. The bullet may have been deflected by a rock or else, while the agent had his gun pointed at the ground, the BG could have drawn a gun and possibly used it.
    I'm sure the SS agent is well trained enough to have considered such things.


    Side note, anyone curious about what our dear Chief Socialist would do if one of his detail was arrested for shooting a purse-snatcher?

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