CHL Man kills attempted carjacker in NE Houston

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    CHL Man kills attempted carjacker in NE Houston

    Thoughts about this? Do you think the guy should have left it alone after already confronting the man and having already called the police 2 times?

    Police: Man kills attempted carjacker in NE Houston | Front page | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

    A man who is licensed to carry a concealed firearm shot a suspected auto burglar and carjacker who attacked him at an apartment complex earlier last weekend in northeast Houston, police said.

    The case will be referred to a Harris County grand jury to determine whether charges should be filed against the shooter, Houston police said.

    Investigators said the shooter, who has not been identified because no charges have been filed against him, shot Darryl Milton Franklin Jr., 37, after he and his wife saw Franklin breaking into cars at the complex in the 1100 block of Langwick about 6:15 a.m. Saturday, police said.

    No other injuries were reported.

    The man and his wife approached Franklin as he was breaking into their vehicle, pulled him away from the car and then called police.

    Franklin left, but tried to burglarize other cars in the complex and then attempted to carjack another resident, who ran into his apartment, police said.

    The shooter and his wife saw the attack and again called police. They again approached Franklin, who attacked the man and began fighting with him. The man's wife hit Franklin several times to get him away from her husband.

    Police said the husband then pulled out a pistol and fired at least once, hitting Franklin in the chest.

    The man and his wife called for medical help and performed first aid on Franklin until paramedics arrived. Franklin was taken to a local hospital, where he died.
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    Based on the description in NC he would be in deep [Edited]

    1) He was the aggressor
    2) He had numbers
    3) There was no weapon on Franklin
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    I agree,.. Based on what I know, he is in trouble.. Sad, he should have known better being he has his CCP...

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    Yep, what Buckeye said. Though this was in Texas, are the laws there THAT different?
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    Wow I can understand his position but I think he's in alot of trouble. only thing I can think of is they say he attacked him but doesn't say if another weapon was involved. The media not reporting something doesn't mean it wasn't there.

    I hope for his sake that the jury takes into account they attempted to preform CPR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    Yep, what Buckeye said. Though this was in Texas, are the laws there THAT different?

    Meet Joe Horn. Here in Texas Grand Jury's often side with the citizen who takes out the criminal. Gotta love it.

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    I think the shooter is in trouble...he instigated the confrontation and his life was not in jeopardy.

    Doesn't look good.

    He called the cops...he should have just observed from that point on.
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    Why did he aproach the villian the second time. In Ohio he would have needed to retreat, not aproach this guy. Call the police and let them do there job at this point, and be a witness not a judge.

    Sounds like he is up the creek without a paddle now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    Yep, what Buckeye said. Though this was in Texas, are the laws there THAT different?

    Not an expert on TX but they are quite different from NC, the big one being you can shoot to defend property there. He still may be in some trouble though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    Meet Joe Horn. Here in Texas Grand Jury's often side with the citizen who takes out the criminal. Gotta love it.
    Well then maybe it will come out ok.. Common sense says he is ok, but the law's are normally off from that..

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    I lived in TX and had CHL before moving to Mississippi. Things are different in TX. There is no requirement to retreat and you can use deadly force to protect property (not just your property). The Grand Jury in TX will almost NEVER find anything wrong with a shooting by a CHL holder that occurs during the commission of a crime.

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    correct, as someone said Joe Horn shot someone who was fleeing after robbing his neighbors house. The opinion was that the law in Texas allows you to use deadly force to defend property even if it is not your property but you were asked to look after it in the owners absence.

    I am not sure if I entirely agree with this set of circumstances or Joe's. If it were my personal house and someone broke in I would like that I wouldn't have to deal with all the red tape other states require. At the time my concern would be a stranger in my house and may not be in the mindset of under reacting to the threat. However some one else's house that I was not in at the time would lead me to hesitate to shoot which I think is a good thing. I assume the laws intent was to make sure people wouldn't be judged over decisions they had seconds to make when a possible threat was present.

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    I want to move to Texas,... Hope all states get that as law real soon,..

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    in Texas, you can protect your property as well as others' property
    chl was attacked by the car jacker
    if he felt in fear for his life--then shooting was justified.
    weather BG had a weapon or not.

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