Good: Postal worker with a .380 vs Robber with a shotgun - Postal worker wins!(Merged

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    Target of Sarasota robbery shoots his assailant | | Sarasota Florida | Southwest Florida's Information Leader

    Target of Sarasota robbery shoots his assailant

    By Anthony Cormier

    Published: Friday, June 12, 2009 at 1:00 a.m.
    Last Modified: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 10:08 p.m.

    SARASOTA - Elliott Firby left the post office on Tallevast Road, where he has worked the night shift as a mail sorter for the past 13 years, and headed home on Thursday.

    * Shooting on Rilma Ave. Sarasota | Graphics
    * Firby speaks to the media about the shooting | Video

    It was 2:45 a.m. and he was alone on the road, save for a dark pickup truck that slowed down, let Firby pass and started following him on University Parkway.

    Firby was suspicious.

    “Something is fixing to jump off,” he recalled thinking to himself, as he sat at a table at the Sarasota Police Department on Thursday afternoon and told the story to reporters.

    The truck was still behind him when Firby pulled into his driveway on Rilma Avenue and got out to open a gate. A guy jumped out of the truck with a shotgun — politely telling Firby that he was being robbed.

    “Give it up, sir,” he said.

    Firby, 54, had followed recent news reports of violence in Newtown, especially a rise in shootings and a recent spate of home invasions. His wife was asleep inside the home and he was concerned that the robber might try to get to her.

    About a year ago — worried about the increase in crime — Firby and his wife got concealed-weapon permits.

    “You have to do something to protect yourself,” he said. “The police can’t be there all the time.”

    Firby started carrying a .380-caliber pistol wherever he went, stashing it in his pocket.

    As the robber approached with the shotgun, Firby went to his knees to make him think he was complying.

    The shotgun was covered with a T-shirt, police say, and the robber fumbled with it.

    Firby reached for his pistol and fired a round, striking the robber in the stomach.

    The robber stumbled back toward the truck and Firby fired again, missing as the truck sped away.

    A few hours later, officials at Sarasota Memorial Hospital called the police to say that a teenager, Brandon Ellis, 16, had showed up with a bullet wound.

    Ellis just finished his junior year at Booker High School, where he played basketball and football.

    He has no arrest record, police say. His injury is not life-threatening.

    Detectives plan to charge him with attempted robbery when he is released from the hospital.

    Late Thursday, detectives arrested Ellis’ half-brother, Cadareus Ray, on an armed robbery charge.

    Ray, 18, who graduated from Booker in 2008, was a linebacker on the football team and, after graduation, continued to play football at a junior college in California.

    When Ellis was dropped off at the hospital, a surveillance camera filmed the black truck as he climbed out of it. Detectives found the truck later Thursday in front of the 25th Street home where Ellis and Ray live.

    Detectives say Ellis and Ray were cruising Sarasota looking for someone to rob, and that it was Ray who gave Ellis the shotgun.

    Firby says he had $5 on him.

    “It wasn’t a whole lot of money,” Firby says, “but you do what you have to do when you’re looking down the business end of a shotgun.”

    For Firby, the ordeal left him shaken, tired and thankful that he was armed.

    He first thought about carrying a gun last year, as the the economy’s condition rapidly deteriorated.

    People started moving out of his neighborhood and vagrants took over a few empty houses.

    Once, someone cut his phone lines. Another time, when he was on a bicycle, someone shot him with a paintball gun. He and his wife figured it was time to take their safety more seriously.

    They took a gun course, got the concealed-weapon permits and try to never leave home without a pistol within reach.

    Detectives have cleared Firby of any wrongdoing in the shooting. Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law — which allows people to use deadly force when they face bodily harm — was a factor in the decision not to charge him.

    “He was looking at dying,” said Sarasota Police Capt. Bill Spitler. “And he has every right to defend himself.”

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    He um... er... uh... had the gun in his car while he was at work... and he parked in an area where it was legal. Yeh, that's it.

    No arrest record for the student? Well, we'll fix that!

    Put the little boy in prison, and we'll see how tough he is without his shotgun.

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    Once again Grady states it so well.
    As to the where was his weapon while he was at work. I dont think anyones going to look into it to closely.
    I know not what this "overkill" means.

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    I'd be willing to bet he was parked out on the street rather than a work place parking lot and the gun was dissassembled and locked in a small safe while he was working for the people.

    Way to go.
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    There you have it folks, another victim who realized that it CAN happen to you or anyone else when it's least expected, and he prepared himself.

    Kudos to Mr Firby for taking responsibility for protecting himself.

    As for Brandon and Cadareus...they are both going to learn the new prison dance version of the the "Hokey Pokey".

    Hope they enjoy their loooooooog stay because of FL's 10-20-Life law.
    Wait a minute, they will like it...they'll be on the top of everyone's dance card.
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    Hope Firby keeps his mouth shut & keeps his job!
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    Yes let's hope they don't give Him a hard time at work.

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    I'm just impressed there was a "positive" article about CC.

    I'm a bit surprised at the outcome, but it ended up good.

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    Great to see a positive CC Story
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    Shame on you for having a gun. The robbers should be given full scholarships to the college of their care for them and their extended families...and then perhaps a big government check....and....we should tax everyone in our community that has managed to get by without robbing somebody to pay for it all.....
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    Good for Mr. Firby, he was aware of his surroundings and picked up the BG's before the 16 yr old punk tried to rob him. He was fortunate that the perp turned and ran after Mr. Firby had only fired one shot and didn't get a round off himself, if you ever find yourself in this situation let the robber have "all" of your ammo, one shot at a time.
    The first time you aren't armed and prepared may be the last time you wished you were.

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    Good job Mr. Firby but let's talk about getting a more potent firearm and a lot more practice!
    ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!

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    Mr. Firby got lucky.

    If you seriously suspect you are being followed by a hyena, do not go and lead said hyena to the cave where you and your family live. Duh.
    For that matter don't stop either...distance is your very best friend. Dial 911 from the car and drive straight to the police station, state police barracks, or hell even to a fire station.

    He's very fortunate that the robber was a novice.
    Had he not been then he Mr. Firby would be found dead, on his knees.

    And get a real and serious defensive caliber handgun.
    Your life and your familys well being is worth it.
    The power floor starts at .38 Special and hell I'd even carry a .38 Super.
    Save the .380 ammo for street hoods and the James Bond wannabes.

    Glad that Mr. Firby made it home in one piece though he was more so lucky than fortunate.

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    Dang, just up the road from me in Miami, I thought Sarasota was sleepy old Florida, lol. Its a shame a star 16 year old ball player with a clean record felt he needed to do this. A good reason not to carry a 380, better then the 45 at home yes but that kid should not be alive to do it again some day. Just my 2 cents

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    There are a number of side neighborhoods between work and home. I have driven them many times to be familiar with the terrain. If I see a car making turns with me, I start weaving through the neighborhoods. I also have the location of the nearest Police stations. If they keep following through the neighborhoods, I call 911 and arrange a meeting for my new friends. The one thing I never do is go home if I think I am being followed. I don't even use my real address on paperwork, I love my UPS store.
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