Houston Home owner shoots crackhead [merged]
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June 18th, 2009 08:57 AM
Houston Home owner shoots crackhead [merged]
A homeowner who had twice ordered a teenager to leave the property — once while holding a rifle — shot the teen dead after the boy refused to leave and walked toward him, authorities said.
“He feared for his life,” said Harris County sheriff’s Lt. Rolf Nelson.
Dwayne Austgen, 69, was inside his north Harris County home in the 5500 block of Susanna around 10:30 a.m. Wednesday when he noticed a teenager in his front yard, officials said. The man went outside, confronted 17-year-old Vidal Herrera, and told him to leave, authorities said.
After the teen left the property, Austgen noticed Herrera had left a crack cocaine pipe, officials said. Austgen then went back inside his home, taking the pipe with him, officials said.
A short while later, Herrera returned to the home, confronted Austgen about the pipe, and the pair argued, officials said. Austgen, this time holding a rifle, again ordered the teen to leave, officials said.
Herrera began to walk away but then approached the homeowner, who fired the .22-caliber rifle, striking the teen in the abdomen, officials said. Herrera was taken to Memorial Hermann Hospital, where he died.
The case will be referred to a Harris County grand jury without charges.
Austgen could not be reached for comment.
Neighbors described him as a grandfather-type who works hard and has a shop housing construction equipment on his property.
The shooting aggravated an already anxious neighborhood. Residents in the rural cluster of tidy homes and trailers said that over the past four months, burglars have taken all-terrain vehicles, tools, bicycles, and navigation and stereo equipment.
Janie Witcher, who lives a few doors down, said she and other neighbors have been nervous for their safety since the rash of crimes, worried the burglars might become violent.
Burglars hit her home and vehicles, Witcher said, adding that she might be the only resident to report a break-in.
“It’s like an invitation for them to come back,” she said.
Witcher said another neighbor pulled a shotgun on a burglar about three months ago and had a difficult time scaring him away.
“I’ve had my kids sleeping in my room,” she said. “My son is constantly looking out the window.”
Her son, Kyle, has been sleeping with a baseball bat for weeks and plans to keep it that way for a while.
June 18th, 2009 08:57 AM
June 18th, 2009 08:58 AM
Teen fatally shot by homeowner
Homeowner in northwest Harris County shot and killed teenager who was reportedly doing drugs on his property - 6/17/09 - Houston News - abc13.com
HOUSTON (KTRK) -- A homeowner accused of shooting and killing a teenager who trespassed on his property. The confrontation happened in a mobile home park on Rhetta near Gosling in north Harris County.
A 70-year-old homeowner went out to his pickup truck Wednesday morning and found some drug paraphernalia in the back. The person to whom that drug paraphernalia belongs, 17-year-old Vidal Herrera, came asking for it back. The homeowner said he would not return it to him. That's when things got violent.
Sheriff's investigators tell Eyewitness News the homeowner only shot the teen after showing him the gun and telling him to leave several times. But then the 17-year-old returned to the property after leaving, and got too close to the elderly man.
Larry Davis with the Harris County Sheriff's Office explained, "Our early indications are that he was in fear. He feared the 17-year-old. He shot one time." Residents of this small community say Herrera was part of a group of teenagers about whom they had complained to police before.
"They've been causing a lot of problems around here," said resident Heather Koenig. "We've reported it to the police. They're bad trouble-makers. I mean, you wouldn't believe the damage they do in here."
Resident Robert Pazbro said," We've had some crime recently, a lot of robberies and stuff. Everybody's been kind of watching after everybody's property because of the upturn in crime."
While the neighbors say they certainly wish today's violence had not happened and that the teen was not killed, they say they understand why it did happen, and why the 70-year-old may have feared for his life.
Sheriff's investigators have concluded their initial investigation at the scene. They intend to go to the district attorney's office and suggest no charges be filed in this case. Some deputies have remained in the neighborhood in an effort to "keep the peace."
June 18th, 2009 09:05 AM
The Elderly/Young-Thug Classic
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"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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June 18th, 2009 09:09 AM
One less Moron to deal with..........its a shame that he was 17 and made a really bad choice.........
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June 18th, 2009 09:26 AM
People who dare to challenge a person with a firearm pointed at them always amaze me. Sure, the person may be bluffing in hopes that the assailant will back down, but anyone who plays a game of chicken in this fashion, deserves to die. IMHO of course...
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June 18th, 2009 09:33 AM
Way to go old man.
I'm seeing more stories like this in the news, about neighborhoods who had few guns considering arming and taking classes to defend themselves. Seems crime is on the rise... and the liberals want to take away our ability to defend ourselves and tie the hands of the police... I don't understand what is going on today... the world is going down the crapper.
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June 18th, 2009 10:13 AM
Maybe with all the concealed carry licenses that are being issued these days a little Darwinism of sorts will strengthen the herd.
June 18th, 2009 12:13 PM
Dwayne deserves a medal and some free ammo for his public service.
June 18th, 2009 12:30 PM
Stinks someone that young had to die, but if he was high or low needing a high they will be bold for sure.. I'm surprised that a 22 cal in the gut took him down, let alone killed him?
June 18th, 2009 12:42 PM
not realy. a .22 is a very strange cal. they go "who knows where" when they enter a body. I have heard of a case of shot in the hand and ended up in the but. No idea how. a 9mm through .45 would not bounce like that.
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June 18th, 2009 12:45 PM
kudos to the old dude,. ignorance knows no age limits.
June 18th, 2009 12:48 PM
Gut shot with a .22...definitely not a pleasant way to go. Kudos to the homeowner for sending some defective merchandise back to the manufacturer.
June 18th, 2009 12:53 PM
.22 do to it size can actually end up in the blood stream and float around till it creates a clog. Also the .22 caliber round depending if its short, long, or long rifle and weapon fired from can have a crazy difference in ballistics. In some cases they have enough to enter the body and bounce around, but not enough energy to pierce the skin again.
The Mob loved the .22short for up close muzzle to target assassinations, do to the fact the round often bounced around inside the target, and was very quiet.
I know not what this "overkill" means.
Honing the knives, Cleaning the longguns, Stocking up ammo.
June 18th, 2009 12:57 PM
You know what they say, never pick a fight with an old man - he'll just kill you.
Originally Posted by Saber
June 18th, 2009 01:03 PM
Originally Posted by TerriLi
All you hear from everyone is "never use anything less then a 9mm"... Now I'm not expert to any degree, but it just seems hard to believer people get shot with 9mm - 40 S&W - 45apc and live, but this crack head get's it with a 22 and dies???? Just dont' seem right,.. Even if it was a 22lr, that is still a small piece a lead without any force behind it comparing,. Must have just hit the right thing??
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