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    In the news is the situation in Honduras.My wife and stepson are on the Island ofGuanaja,one of the bay islands owned by Honduras.We have a lot there,with intention to build a retirement home.Today,July 1,I received e-mail from my son that the ousted president is rumored to be coming to Guanaja enroute back to Honduras.The boy wrote that the island is swarming with Honduran Army forces,and the locals are 'dusting off' their firearms.My wife and son are trying to fly out today to the mainland,and from there to Casaholchan,on Ambergris Caye,Belize.I am home in Florida,working everyday.Boy,I never imagined I would ever be in such a situation.It is interesting when one reads these things in the press,but rather strange feeling when one becomes directly involved.
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    Carry OK: my heart goes out to you & yours and I will keep your wife and stepson in my prayers.

    Does anybody know who is the good guy in the two-presidents debacle? The news is calling it a military coup -- which immediately frames the events as bad. But I also read that the exiled president was trying to change the constitution to eliminate his term limit, and that the congress, judiciary, and military joined together to oust him. Sounds like a reasonable reaction, especially seeing what is going on in other countries in the region (read: Venezuela) where president Chavez has been monkeying with the constitution and slowly turning the gov't into a totalitarian regime. The fact that thugs like Chavez and Castro were first to condemn the coup, and that Chavez is now contemplating a military invasion of Honduras (with which Venezuela shares no border) further makes me think maybe this coup is not so bad. But then I read that the new president appointed by the congress is of the same political party and persuasion as the exiled president, so who knows--maybe this is just about egos and not politics. Way off topic for this forum, I know, but what is the just outcome in this situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cz2075bd View Post
    Carry OK: my heart goes out to you & yours and I will keep your wife and stepson in my prayers.

    Does anybody know who is the good guy in the two-presidents debacle? The news is calling it a military coup -- which immediately frames the events as bad. But I also read that the exiled president was trying to change the constitution to eliminate his term limit, and that the congress, judiciary, and military joined together to oust him. Sounds like a reasonable reaction, especially seeing what is going on in other countries in the region (read: Venezuela) where president Chavez has been monkeying with the constitution and slowly turning the gov't into a totalitarian regime. The fact that thugs like Chavez and Castro were first to condemn the coup, and that Chavez is now contemplating a military invasion of Honduras (with which Venezuela shares no border) further makes me think maybe this coup is not so bad. But then I read that the new president appointed by the congress is of the same political party and persuasion as the exiled president, so who knows--maybe this is just about egos and not politics. Way off topic for this forum, I know, but what is the just outcome in this situation?
    I read it much the same as you do.Guanaja,just east of Roatan,(the tourist Island )has many ex-pat americans as residents.I don't know more than what my son e-mailed,but he also wrote that there is fear that Islanders will become 'hostages',so from that I gather that rumors,speculation,and fear are rampant at this time on the Island.It leaves a real sense of helplessness,and despair in my mind this morning.And,really,there is not a thing I can do.Thanks for the expressed wellwishes to all. .....Carry ok.
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    Prayers to your family that they get out and stay safe.
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    I hope everything goes well. I guess most people in the U.S. have no idea what it must be like to get caught up in a situation like that.

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    That's a tough situation for you to be in: the feeling of not being able to do anything. But maybe at some point you will be able to help them if they need to evacuate, or if they need money sent.

    I can relate to your situation. I faced something similar in the early 90's when my wife was traveling in Asia, and Red China was getting belligerent.

    Let us know how they are doing, okay? Hopefully Guanaja won't be involved at all.

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    carry ok, I hope for the best for your family!
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    You're in my thoughts as well. Good luck and keep us posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carry ok View Post
    In the news is the situation in Honduras.My wife and stepson are on the Island ofGuanaja,one of the bay islands owned by Honduras.We have a lot there,with intention to build a retirement home.Today,July 1,I received e-mail from my son that the ousted president is rumored to be coming to Guanaja enroute back to Honduras.The boy wrote that the island is swarming with Honduran Army forces,and the locals are 'dusting off' their firearms.My wife and son are trying to fly out today to the mainland,and from there to Casaholchan,on Ambergris Caye,Belize.I am home in Florida,working everyday.Boy,I never imagined I would ever be in such a situation.It is interesting when one reads these things in the press,but rather strange feeling when one becomes directly involved.
    Why dont you meet up with them at Ambergis Caye and do a little diving?

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    Good guy/bad guy.........

    Quote Originally Posted by cz2075bd View Post
    Carry OK: my heart goes out to you & yours and I will keep your wife and stepson in my prayers.

    Does anybody know who is the good guy in the two-presidents debacle? The news is calling it a military coup -- which immediately frames the events as bad. But I also read that the exiled president was trying to change the constitution to eliminate his term limit, and that the congress, judiciary, and military joined together to oust him. Sounds like a reasonable reaction, especially seeing what is going on in other countries in the region (read: Venezuela) where president Chavez has been monkeying with the constitution and slowly turning the gov't into a totalitarian regime. The fact that thugs like Chavez and Castro were first to condemn the coup, and that Chavez is now contemplating a military invasion of Honduras (with which Venezuela shares no border) further makes me think maybe this coup is not so bad. But then I read that the new president appointed by the congress is of the same political party and persuasion as the exiled president, so who knows--maybe this is just about egos and not politics. Way off topic for this forum, I know, but what is the just outcome in this situation?
    The good guy is the one that is currently president. The bad guy is the one that was overthrown. He was planning to turn Honduras
    into another Cuba. He is backed by Communist Cuba, Communist Venezuela and of course Obama.
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    Again,

    thanks for all the wellwishes.I have stayed on the 'net' today,took vacation from 3-11 shift to keep up on news.However,no further e-mails from son/wife.Patti,if I could get the vacation time,and had the funds,I would love that plan.Auto Slim,I have to agree.It seems that Honduras has been slipping down the slope toward Chavez and Ortega style madness for a while.Again,thanks,and I will post any further news. Best wishes,Carry ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    The good guy is the one that is currently president. The bad guy is the one that was overthrown. He was planning to turn Honduras
    into another Cuba. He is backed by Communist Cuba, Communist Venezuela and of course Obama.
    CAUTION this very subject is what I posted on and received 5 points for. (Post removed)

    the ousted guy disregarded the constitution and there supreme court. he wanted an amendment to run for 3 or more terms.
    the ballets were printed in Venezuela.
    Sense our current president supports the ousted criminal, does that give an indication what his intentions may be here?
    Will the 2nd amendment be enough to keep that from happening?
    You know the current congress will help him not stop him.

    5 more points for me.
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    She seems very rational and even handed.

    And I am also very concerned about who is supporting the would be "President for Life".

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