McNair-Related: Does Anyone Else Find This Odd?

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    Question McNair-Related: Does Anyone Else Find This Odd?

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    From the above-referenced article:
    "Kazemi then positioned herself next to McNair on the sofa and then shot herself once in the right temple [emphasis added] and expired. ... We do believe she tried to stage that when she killed herself, she would fall in his lap."

    A trace of gunshot residue was found on her left hand [emphasis added], he said. Kazemi used a 9 mm handgun, Serpas said.
    A trace, on her left hand only?

    Sounds unusual to me...perhaps this is more common than it would seem? IANALEO.
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    I read in the news earlier that alot of it may have been washed off by blood. I would have thought there would have been alot after firing 5 shots but i dont know how this stuff works.

    Edit: link where its mentioned that blood contaminated the residue test.

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...EWS03/90708043

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    The article...

    Police call McNair killing a murder-suicide
    Published: 7/8/09, 7:00 PM EDT
    By Wayne Drash CNN

    (CNN) - The girlfriend of former NFL star Steve McNair first shot him in his right temple, then fired three more shots at close range, most likely as he slept, police said Wednesday.
    She then sat on the couch next to his body, and killed herself so that she would fall into his lap, they said.
    "The totality of the evidence clearly points to a murder-suicide," Nashville, Tennessee, Police Chief Ronal Serpas told reporters at an afternoon news conference.

    McNair, 36, and Sahel Kazemi, 20, were found fatally shot in a condominium in downtown Nashville on Saturday afternoon, authorities said.
    "McNair was seated on the sofa and likely was asleep, and we believe that Kazemi shot him in the right temple, then shot him twice in the chest, and then shot him a final time in the left temple," Serpas said.
    "Kazemi then positioned herself next to McNair on the sofa and then shot herself once in the right temple and expired. ... We do believe she tried to stage that when she killed herself, she would fall in his lap."

    A trace of gunshot residue was found on her left hand, he said. Kazemi used a 9 mm handgun, Serpas said.
    McNair was married and had four children. Serpas said he had spoken with McNair's wife Wednesday to update her on the investigation.
    The police chief said Kazemi had become rattled over the last week, believing that McNair was involved with another woman. "She had become very distraught and on two occasions told friends and associates that her life was all messed up and that she was going to end it all," Serpas said.

    He said Kazemi had seen another person leave the condo a few days before and was concerned "whether or not her relationship was unraveling with Mr. McNair."

    "There was evidence that she was spinning out of control," Serpas said.
    He added that there was no evidence found at the condo indicating anyone else was there at the time of the deaths, which is believed to be after 1 a.m. Saturday.

    Dr. Feng Li, the assistant medical examiner who has been handling the case, told CNN earlier Wednesday that all evidence was "indicating that she killed Mr. McNair and killed herself."
    "It's almost an assured thing. We have to be convinced otherwise," Li said.
    The coroner said he will not finalize the "manner of death" on Kazemi's death certificate until he has final lab test results, which are a few days away.

    "I have to have everything together, and then I make the opinion," he said. "We want to be as thorough and as detailed as possible."
    Li said Kazemi was found face-down in the condo with the gun underneath her. The autopsy indicates she shot herself once through her right temple. "She was found on the feet of Mr. McNair, who sat on the sofa," he said.

    "It's very hard for everybody involved," Li said. "Our thoughts and prayers go to the families."
    Earlier in the week, police said that on Thursday evening, Kazemi purchased the pistol found at the scene. Hours before the purchase, Kazemi was pulled over in a traffic stop and charged with driving under the influence. She was accompanied by McNair in a Cadillac Escalade he had purchased for her.

    McNair was allowed to leave the scene in a taxi after Kazemi was given a field sobriety test.
    On Friday night, Kazemi who worked as a waitress told a co-worker "that she was thinking about ending it," Serpas said.
    Police found their bodies in the condo -- leased to McNair and his friend Wayne Neeley -- about 1:30 p.m. Saturday.
    The two had been dead for hours before Neeley, who had to use a key to enter the building, discovered the clothed bodies Saturday afternoon, according to police. Neeley then called his friend Robert Gaddy, who arrived at the condo and called police.

    Serpas said it is unusual for such a time gap, but "not unheard of." He said police do not believe the crime scene was tampered.
    McNair spent 13 seasons in the NFL, mostly with the Tennessee Titans, where he excelled on the field as quarterback. He was named the NFL's co-MVP in 2003 and spent his last two seasons with the Baltimore Ravens before announcing his retirement in April 2008.
    The Titans reached the Super Bowl in 2000, losing to the St. Louis Rams. McNair led the Titans in a dramatic comeback that day, with a final tying touchdown coming up a yard short.

    "Any death is tragic," the Nashville police chief said, "and the deaths we're talking about today are tragic to the families of all involved and tragic to our community."
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    Quote Originally Posted by falcon1 View Post
    perhaps this is more common than it would seem?
    Yes it is. It indicates that the gun was actually handled by that person, not simply place in her right hand to stage a murder suicide by a third party.
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    Shot herself in the right temple using her left hand? That's a pretty awkward shot unless she stuck her thumb in the trigger housing.
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    She fired 5 shots. GSR on her left hand was probably from holding it with both hands at some point or handling it with that hand like SIXTO said. Not necessarily when she shot herself. Again, the right hand was contaminated by blood from what I understood it to say. So I guess a GSR determination of the right hand was not feasable perhaps.

    Either way, the pervert shouldn't be cheating on his wife with a 20 yr old and none of this would have happened. Wide is the path that leadeth to death and destruction. (sgtD's book of truths, chapter 1, verse 21.)
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    "Neeley then called his friend Robert Gaddy, who arrived at the condo and called police."

    That's what I find odd.

    Real "smart" you idiot!...You walk into your apartment and spot two dead bodies in the living room...then you call your friend up on the phone...and then you wait around for awhile until your friend finally gets there and he then calls the Police.

    They probably had to get the crack pipes, the bong, and the dope out of there before the po-po arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtD View Post
    Either way, the pervert shouldn't be cheating on his wife with a 20 yr old and none of this would have happened. Wide is the path that leadeth to death and destruction. (sgtD's book of truths, chapter 1, verse 21.)
    Amen. Honor and loyalty are rare traits in people these days.

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    Sad, but not a surprise, and a recipie for disaster.

    Cheating on a spouse is never a good idea. Lying to girlfriend about leaving wife & kids, not the most intelligent of things. Not knowing the frame of mind of secret lover, dangerous and deadly.

    Mix all the above ingredients, bring them to a boil and you get the result reported in the news.
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    I also find it odd that the "friend" called another "friend," who THEN called police. Kind of weird for such an occurrence, eh?

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    At least for the GSR trace, this has been explained. In a more detailed article than the one I posted, the ME said her right hand was so covered in blood that obtaining GSR from it was impossible....
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    There must have been drugs laying about. Or the police would have been called right away.

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    Well, if they find his DNA blowback blood misting/spatter on the front of her clothing then she sure would be the shooter.
    Looks like they are pretty certain of a murder/suicide so probably not necessary.

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    Of course the anti-gun nuts are jumping on board:

    Steve McNair's famous face becomes just another victim of American gun culture

    Steve McNair's famous face becomes just another victim of American gun culture

    Steve McNair put up Pro Bowl numbers during his illustrious career but became just another statistic of nation's troubling gun violence.........

    There were so many wonderful statistics attached to McNair's career, the most important being the one Super Bowl, the four Pro Bowls to which he was selected, all the games he won. But the last was the only one that mattered. He is the 36th homicide victim in Nashville this year. That is down from 41 at the same time last year.

    Only in a country of gun lovers is that considered progress.
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