Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement
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This is an April newstory. However, a poster in a different gun forum I read knows the survivor, ...
July 10th, 2009 03:33 PM
Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement
Or dont' shoot an ungodly bad*ss. :)
This is an April newstory. However, a poster in a different gun forum I read knows the survivor, Deric Hoffman. He shielded the boy they refer to. The story you will read says he was hit "several" times and wounded critically.
Police Report: Boy calls police to shooting site in East Memphis : Local News : Memphis Commercial Appeal
In actuality, he was hit 13 times with a .40. He lost three fingers and has some massive medical bills, but is otherwise OK. One other stroke of luck was that the attacker used FMJ instead of hollowpoints. Nonetheless, shot 13 times is shot 13 times. Incredible act of bad*ssery and heroism.
July 10th, 2009 05:39 PM
That is incredible. One would think that the cumulative effects of 13 .40cal gunshot wounds would be more than enough to lead to death. What a lucky guy. This sounds like a case of good things happening to a good person. ( being alive, not being shot)
July 10th, 2009 07:03 PM
Wow...that is amazing that he made it!
July 10th, 2009 07:39 PM
Well there was a BG guy shot 22 times COM by a cop with hollowpoints that kept returning fire until he dropped and didn't die til 5 minutes after the ambulance showed up
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July 13th, 2009 04:55 AM
I was under the impression that BGs often used FMJ rather than hollowpoints due to price...
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July 13th, 2009 07:45 AM
This just reinforces what I believe.
There ain't no magic bullet and you need to put the bullets where they will do the most good.
I don't care to be shot with a bullet of any kind. One of my good friends has been shot three times, with a vest on each time. Even with a vest, he says it feels like getting hit with a baseball bat.
Back when I was riding bulls Donnie Gay used to say, "Getting hit by a bull's horns feels like George Brett hitting you with a baseball bat. That's no problem, we can handle that. It's the feet that will kill you."
I ain't as young as I once was, and I've been hooked and stepped on. The feet always did more damage. So, to make a short story longer, I'll wear my vest and hope that if I get hit, they hit the vest. I can handle that.
July 13th, 2009 12:15 PM
It also reinforces that "When it's your time, it's your time."...lucky guy.
Proverbs 27:12 says: “The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.”
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July 13th, 2009 04:54 PM
I would liken being hit by a bull to be more like being hit by a small car. Atleast that is what it felt like to me.
Originally Posted by BikerRN
July 14th, 2009 01:38 AM
Without hitting major bone structure or blood vessels, the kid had essentially 13 "ice pick" wounds. Not that I would trade places with him! But my point is that FMJ's don't do a huge amount of damage.
I'm glad the boy survived!
July 14th, 2009 03:27 AM
Don't forget the Miami bank robbers and the FBI. They absorbed I don't know how many shots and kept shooting.
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July 24th, 2009 01:26 AM
Really only one did. One of the two was out of the action almost immediately, then came to near the end and crawled over to the other car. Almost all of the damage was done by the other one.
Originally Posted by automatic slim
July 24th, 2009 10:58 AM
"Placement" for sure.
One of the old Wild West bandits, in the Dalton gang?, soaked up a lot of lead several times before he finally died. Maybe some people are just resistant to that sort of shock?
I'm not volunteering to find out if I'm one.
IMO, the big problem with the Miami shoot out was not inadequate firepower, but inadequate weapon retention. Go back to the reports and see how many of the agents _put_their_handguns_on_the_seat_next_to_them_. The agents hit the brakes and the gun hit the foot well, out of reach. No one addressed that point in the discussions, it was all "more firepower needed".
July 24th, 2009 03:37 PM
You gotta turn off the electricity or the plumbing...
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July 24th, 2009 03:40 PM
Originally Posted by PointnClick
July 24th, 2009 04:08 PM
I cant help my self...
Stay armed... be tough.. stay safe.
(sorry ret I cant help myself today)
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