Good: Shooting victim arrested for burglary
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July 17th, 2009 11:53 AM
Good: Shooting victim arrested for burglary
SALT LAKE CITY -- A man who stumbled into a Sugar House gas station with gunshot wounds is now in jail. Deputies think he got shot during a home burglary.
Investigators initially believed 26-year-old Ronald Whitelaw was the victim of a drive-by shooting. After receiving new information Thursday, they now think he was shot while he and another man tried to burglarize a home in Holladay.
Salt Lake City police found Whitelaw just before 11 p.m. Wednesday at a gas station near 2300 South and Highland Drive. He had been shot in the stomach and leg. He was rushed to the hospital in critical condition, but he refused to tell officers how he got the wounds.
A man called the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office Thursday and reported that he had fired shots at two armed men attempting to break into his home Wednesday night. It happened about 25 minutes before Whitelaw was found.
Lt. Don Hutson of the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office said, "It appears the motive was simply to get in the house and perhaps steal some items from the house, or rob the people who were in the house."
Authorities say the timing of the two events leads them to believe that Whitelaw was involved in the burglary. Once he was released from the hospital Wednesday night, he was arrested and booked into the Salt Lake County Jail for investigation of aggravated burglary, a weapons violation and three counts of aggravated assault.
Authorities say they are looking for more suspects in the case. The sheriff's office says the shooting is still under investigation, but so far no charges have been filed against the homeowner.
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Reading the comments on this story there was one that was pretty interesting, maybe needs to be a whole other thread or maybe the exact thing has been discussed before, but i'll just put it here and whoever is in charge can do whatever they please with it.
"You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door..
Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.
At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your
way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick
up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward
the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.
One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder
brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire The
blast knocks both thugs to the floor.
One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door
and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you
know you're in trouble.
In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few
That are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them
useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you
that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree
Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your
attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea
the case down to manslaughter.
What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.
"Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave
yourself, and you'll be out in seven."
The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper..
Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men
you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives
can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the
article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been
arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all:
"Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been
transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As
the days wear on, the story takes wings.
The national media picks it up, then the international media. The
surviving burglar has become a folk hero.
Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll
probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been
burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of
local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.
After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be
prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that
you were lying in wait for the burglars.
A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been
reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take
the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you.
Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It
doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.
The judge sentences you to life in prison.
This case really happened.
On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed
one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted
and is now serving a life term.
How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great
British Empire ?
It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable
law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that
handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license The
Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns
but all firearms except shotguns.
Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon
by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.
Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the
Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed
Man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting
everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.
The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun
control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all
privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a
Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a
semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public
For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally
unstable or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with
which to beat up law-abiding gun owners.
Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of
objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane
Inquiry, a few months later, Sealed the fate of the few sidearm still
owned by private citizens.
During the years in which the British government incrementally took
away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed
self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to
grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that
self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens
who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real
criminals were released.
Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as
saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands.."
All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several
elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who
had no fear of the consequences.. Martin himself, a collector of
antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by
When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were
given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good
British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were
visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if
they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly
200,000 handguns from private citizens. "
"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
July 17th, 2009 11:53 AM
July 17th, 2009 12:18 PM
Interesting use of the word "victim".
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"
July 17th, 2009 02:27 PM
Indeed. Should have read "Gutshot dirtbag."
Originally Posted by Divebum47
At any rate, that story about Tony Martin is pretty insane.
"The flock sleep peaceably in their pasture at night because Sheepdogs stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
July 18th, 2009 01:27 AM
Tony Martin should have known about the 3 s's; shoot, shovel, and shut up. At least that's my plan if it ever gets that way over here...
Anti-gunners seem to believe that if we just pass enough laws, we can have utopia. Unfortunately, utopia is NOT one of our choices.
July 18th, 2009 02:21 PM
LOL Never heard of the Three S's.
Originally Posted by Freedom Doc
If burglars got this -- >
We would have very few burglaries. But we have a society that rewards derelict behavior in a variety of ways so that by the time you step in it's really too late to remedy the cause in a favorable or easy way.
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