Good: Shooting victim arrested for burglary

Good: Shooting victim arrested for burglary

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    SALT LAKE CITY -- A man who stumbled into a Sugar House gas station with gunshot wounds is now in jail. Deputies think he got shot during a home burglary.

    Investigators initially believed 26-year-old Ronald Whitelaw was the victim of a drive-by shooting. After receiving new information Thursday, they now think he was shot while he and another man tried to burglarize a home in Holladay.

    Salt Lake City police found Whitelaw just before 11 p.m. Wednesday at a gas station near 2300 South and Highland Drive. He had been shot in the stomach and leg. He was rushed to the hospital in critical condition, but he refused to tell officers how he got the wounds.

    A man called the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office Thursday and reported that he had fired shots at two armed men attempting to break into his home Wednesday night. It happened about 25 minutes before Whitelaw was found.

    Lt. Don Hutson of the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office said, "It appears the motive was simply to get in the house and perhaps steal some items from the house, or rob the people who were in the house."

    Authorities say the timing of the two events leads them to believe that Whitelaw was involved in the burglary. Once he was released from the hospital Wednesday night, he was arrested and booked into the Salt Lake County Jail for investigation of aggravated burglary, a weapons violation and three counts of aggravated assault.

    Authorities say they are looking for more suspects in the case. The sheriff's office says the shooting is still under investigation, but so far no charges have been filed against the homeowner. - Shooting victim arrested for burglary

    Reading the comments on this story there was one that was pretty interesting, maybe needs to be a whole other thread or maybe the exact thing has been discussed before, but i'll just put it here and whoever is in charge can do whatever they please with it.

    "You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door..
    Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.
    At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your
    way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick
    up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward
    the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.

    One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder
    brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire The
    blast knocks both thugs to the floor.
    One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door
    and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you
    know you're in trouble.

    In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few
    That are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them
    useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you
    that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree
    Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your
    attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea
    the case down to manslaughter.

    What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.

    "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave
    yourself, and you'll be out in seven."

    The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper..
    Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men
    you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives
    can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the
    article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been
    arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all:
    "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been
    transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As
    the days wear on, the story takes wings.
    The national media picks it up, then the international media. The
    surviving burglar has become a folk hero.

    Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll
    probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been
    burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of
    local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.
    After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be
    prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that
    you were lying in wait for the burglars.

    A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been
    reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take
    the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you.
    Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It
    doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.

    The judge sentences you to life in prison.

    This case really happened.

    On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed
    one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted
    and is now serving a life term.

    How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great
    British Empire ?
    It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable
    law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that
    handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license The
    Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns
    but all firearms except shotguns.

    Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon
    by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.

    Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the
    Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed
    Man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting
    everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.

    The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun
    control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all
    privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a

    Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a
    semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public

    For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally
    unstable or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with
    which to beat up law-abiding gun owners.
    Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of
    objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane
    Inquiry, a few months later, Sealed the fate of the few sidearm still
    owned by private citizens.

    During the years in which the British government incrementally took
    away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed
    self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to
    grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that
    self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens
    who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real
    criminals were released.

    Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as
    saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands.."

    All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several
    elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who
    had no fear of the consequences.. Martin himself, a collector of
    antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by
    When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were
    given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good
    British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were
    visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if
    they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly
    200,000 handguns from private citizens. "
    "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
    -Alexander Hamilton

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    Shooting victim arrested
    Interesting use of the word "victim".
    "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divebum47 View Post
    Interesting use of the word "victim".
    Indeed. Should have read "Gutshot dirtbag."

    At any rate, that story about Tony Martin is pretty insane.
    "The flock sleep peaceably in their pasture at night because Sheepdogs stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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    Tony Martin should have known about the 3 s's; shoot, shovel, and shut up. At least that's my plan if it ever gets that way over here...
    Anti-gunners seem to believe that if we just pass enough laws, we can have utopia. Unfortunately, utopia is NOT one of our choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom Doc View Post
    Tony Martin should have known about the 3 s's; shoot, shovel, and shut up. At least that's my plan if it ever gets that way over here...
    LOL Never heard of the Three S's.

    If burglars got this -- >
    We would have very few burglaries. But we have a society that rewards derelict behavior in a variety of ways so that by the time you step in it's really too late to remedy the cause in a favorable or easy way.

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