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    7 NC men charged with plotting 'violent jihad'

    7 NC men charged with plotting 'violent jihad' | Comcast.net

    RALEIGH, N.C. A father, his two sons and four other North Carolina men are accused of military-style training at home and plotting "violent jihad" through a series of terror attacks abroad, federal authorities said Monday.

    Officials said the group was led by Daniel Patrick Boyd, a married 39-year-old who lived in an unassuming lakeside home in a rural area south of Raleigh, where he and his family walked their dog and operated a drywall business. But two decades ago, Boyd, who is a U.S. citizen, trained in terrorist camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan and fought against the Soviets for three years before returning to the United States.

    An indictment released Monday does not detail any specific terrorist plans or targets overseas, although it claims some of the defendants traveled to Israel in 2007 with the intent of waging "violent jihad" and returned home without success.

    "These charges hammer home the point that terrorists and their supporters are not confined to the remote regions of some far away land but can grow and fester right here at home," U.S. Attorney George E.B. Holding said. He would not give details of the alleged plots beyond what was in a news release and indictment.

    The seven men made their first court appearances in Raleigh on Monday, charged with providing material support to terrorism. If convicted, they could face life in prison. Court documents charged that Boyd, also known as 'Saifullah,' encouraged others to engage in jihad.

    Boyd's beliefs did not concur with his Raleigh-area moderate mosque, which he stopped attending and instead began meeting for Friday prayers in his home, said Holding, who did not say whether any or all the defendants met with him.

    "These people had broken away because their local mosque did not follow their vision of being a good Muslim," Holding said. "This is not an indictment of the entire Muslim community."

    In 1991, Boyd and his brother were convicted of bank robbery in Pakistan accused of carrying identification showing they belonged to the radical Afghan guerrilla group, Hezb-e-Islami, or Party of Islam. Each was sentenced to have a foot and a hand cut off for the robbery, but the decision was later overturned.

    Their wives told The Associated Press in an interview at the time that the couples had U.S. roots but the United States was a country of "kafirs" Arabic for heathens.

    Jim Stephenson, a neighbor of Daniel Boyd in Willow Spring, said he saw the family walking their dog in the neighborhood and that the indictment shocked the residents.

    "We never saw anything to give any clues that something like that could be going on in their family," Stephenson said.

    Two of the suspects are Boyd's sons: Zakariya Boyd, 20 and Dylan Boyd, 22. The others are Anes Subasic, 33; Mohammad Omar Aly Hassan, 22; and Ziyad Yaghi, 21. Hysen Sherifi, 24, a native of Kosovo and a U.S. legal permanent was also charged in the case. He was the only person arrested who was not a U.S. citizen.

    No attorneys for the men were listed in court records.

    Reached at her home in Silver Spring, Md., Boyd's mother said she had not heard of their arrests and knew nothing about the current case.

    "It certainly sounds weird to me," Pat Saddler said. "That's news to me."

    Hassan's father declined to comment Monday night while others did not have listed numbers or did not return calls.

    It's unclear how authorities learned of the activities, although court documents indicate that prosecutors will introduce evidence gathered under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

    After the unsuccessful attempt at jihad in Israel, the men returned home, officials said. Court papers also say Yaghi went to Jordan to engage in jihad in 2006.

    Boyd was also accused of trying to raise money last year to fund others' travel overseas to fight. One of the men, Sherifi, went to Kosovo to engage in violent jihad, according to the indictment, but it's unclear if he did any actual fighting.
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    I saw this first thing in the morning, glad they were going overseas to "engage in jihad" and hadn't decided to do it here. Just goes to show that we have be on alert always.

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    That darn ol' Patriot Act. My rights! My rights!

    I think we should have let them continue their plans. Who did they harm?

    If and when they actually successfully carried out their attacks, then, and only then, should we call the police to investigate and hopefully arrest the wrongdoers.

    Make sure we read them their Miranda rights.

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    A family that commits crimes together, should stay together...in jail...for a long time...lots a 'family time'...together!
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    The father of the senior Boyd is a Marine.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/us/29terror.html

    Mr. Boyd, the son of a Marine, is a convert to Islam, and received training from Islamic radicals in Pakistan and Afghanistan, the indictment said.
    The Post profile said Mr. Boyd’s stepfather was a Muslim.

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    hmmm right in your backyard. Just goes to show you never know.
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    What happened to the old adage: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"? By the looks of things this guy fought against the Soviets with the Mujaheddin.

    If he wants to take the fight to the enemy I say suit him up and let him get at it. Heck, drop him off in the LZ with provisions, a fresh AK and a few RPG's.

    I think it's sort of comical that we have had to rebadge the Mujaheddin as Taliban. When they were busy killing Russians in our tidy proxy war they were the best thing since sliced bread. Now that they are shooting at us we have rebranded them as the dirtiest, most villainous murdering Islamo-fascist scum on the earth. (no disagreement from me on this point)

    I have family and a friend in A-stan as we speak. One is a young solider and the other is a 30 year veteran. The unifying theme of the conversations I have with them is that we need to get the heck out of that God forsaken place and only leave OAD there to gather intel and exterminate the BG's with drone swarms. As hawkish as I tend to be, I have to agree with them.

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    Being in Raleigh WRAL has had a lot of coverage on this story.

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    We don't need a 'patriot act' to catch criminals any more than we need "hate crime legislation' to catch murderers. A crime is a crime and killing is against the law. Calling it something more than that doesn't make it more illegal.

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    I think it's sort of comical that we have had to rebadge the Mujaheddin as Taliban. When they were busy killing Russians in our tidy proxy war they were the best thing since sliced bread. Now that they are shooting at us we have rebranded them as the dirtiest, most villainous murdering Islamo-fascist scum on the earth. (no disagreement from me on this point)
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    Carter and Reagan made big boo-boos when they aided the Muj against the Russians. Then after the Russians left the US abandoned Afghanistan. Go figure.

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    This just shows that "terrorist cells" aren't just confined to the middle east or large US cities like New York, Chicago ect. Smaller towns can have terrorist also. I know in our small local town when 9-11 happened several of the Middle Eastern doctors had a celebration.... let's just say their practice got "shunned" and they moved. Always stay ready!
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    My wife comes from Willow Spring (Willow Springs to the locals), we moved away from there some years ago. This is stunning really. I can see that area producing.....well different folks possibly. It's pretty country down there. Jihad type dudes? That's a trip. This mornings paper said "yeah but they were really good neighbors". Someone probably said that about Charles Manson too. That's OK, we got this place called Butner Federal Prison here in lil ol NC. We can keep right at home.
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    I hate to break up the party, but what crime have they committed, again? Collecting guns and ammo, doing back yard shooting/drills, and traveling abroad somehow is evidence of a crime? Where is the substance? I haven't heard reports that they've done anything illegal. Only that arrests have been made and that they're accused of being terrorists.

    About how many of us could the same be said, less the travel abroad part for some? I don't have a particularly good feeling about this. I'm worried that this nothing more than the camel's nose in the tent. If you looked at the last three years of my life, some one could easily twist otherwise innocuous facts and events to conjure up some of the same characterizations.

    Finally, if they went to Israel to do some terrorist stuff then why weren't they arrested in 2007 while in the state of Israel?

    This sounds very flimsy to me and is troubling given the recent declaration by DHS that soldiers returning home, gun owners, people that fly the Gadsden, etc. should be held under suspicion of domestic terrorism.
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    I agree with Moga. what crimes did this guy exactly commit? also, why does it matter the this man is a son of a Marine? how is that relevant?

    Mr. Boyd has an interesting background though. convicted of bank robbery in Pakistan and he is walking around with his feet/hand still attached.

    I am not surprised though that we have homegrown jihadists in the states. They are around. Kudos on LE in keeping tabs on these bad dudes.
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    I mean, if they've done something and there is evidence of wrong doing then lock those blokes up and throw away the key. But there has to be EVIDENCE and there doesn't seem to be any. In fact, this seems more like a witch hunt/preemptive arrest to prevent them from possibly doing anything. <<<That's not good enough for US citizens and is a way, way slippery slope along with being completely unconstitutional.
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