Quintessential Liberal Idiot Gets Robbed

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooterX View Post
    +1 I have too.
    To be fair to the man, I will post the longest statement that I have come across regarding Keillor and gun control. Basically his position is that gun owners are knuckle-dragging oddballs bereft of the civility and refinement possessed by the political left. BUT - he also feels that the oddballs aren't a pressing issue for now and it's more important to win political office than to offend the troglodytes.

    Nathan Callahan / What We Can Rub in Bush's Face (the Keillor portion is about halfway down the page.)

    “I think gun control is an issue that we can no longer afford to be seen as standing in favor of,” Keillor says. “Gun control means something so different in Manhattan than it means in the country. There’s no way for the Party to take just one stance. It’s way down the list of important issues, and I think that we Democrats are too emotional about this. We get all dizzy at the thought of people buying assault weapons for example. I don't think assault weapons should be legal, but I don't think it's anything to lose sleep over. There are a few thousand gun fetishists who like to put on camo (XXXL) and stand around holding guns and get their pictures taken, and they're fairly harmless for the most part, and in our revulsion at them we piss off twenty million hunters. Gun control laws tend to reflect an urban point of view — in the big city, somebody with a gun is weird and dangerous — and as liberals we ought to be reluctant to let city people lord it over rural people. If Uncle Elmer wants to keep a machine gun on his farm west of Yankton, let him keep it. There are bigger problems.”

    When bank robbers roamed the streets of my old neighborhood of North Hollywood with semi-automatic weapons, gun control seemed like a gigantic problem. But given a choice between gun control and a living wage, I think I’d opt for economic justice over passing laws to deprive Uncle Elmer of his firearms fetish — especially if losing Uncle Elmer’s vote meant losing another election to a GOP/Halliburton conglomerate.

    Anyone else incensed? Buck up or stop reading, leave the room, and sulk about the election while I ask Keillor if there any other positions Democrats should jettison.
    LOL .... yeah ... that must be it. If I have one of the firearms not on his tiny "approved" list, then I must be a monosyllabic, morbidly obese, hairy-backed automaton of the NRA. He and all his other NPR buds can keep telling themselves that.

    Hopefully the robbery put a bit of a chip in those rose colored glasses.

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    Is this guy straight out of the UK? Making fun of Uncle Elmer (Fudd) down on the farm, shame on him!

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    actually i listen to NPR every day.it actually has the largest music library in TX. and has music you will never hear anywhere else.at least KUT in Austin is that way. as far as politics goes it does not have an effect on me whatever they say..
    they also don't have those horrible early morning loudmouths and no commercials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    Surely he realizes that those that robbed him are just victims of society that had unhappy childhoods. If he were a true liberal, he would decline to press charges when they are caught, pay for their therapy and provide them with food and shelter out of his own pocket. It's only fair that he does what he expects the rest of us to do.
    No - a true liberal would impose a tax on the residents of the city so that the government could provide therapy and food and shelter. After all, people don't give VOLUNTARILY - especially liberals. That's why you need government.

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    I am amazed and dismayed by this thread. Why would anyone rejoice in someone being robbed even if we didn't agree with his views? This tells me how sick some people on this forum are!!!

    Good bye.

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    It is bad that he got robbed, however it is also bad that we have to always be ready to defend ourselves. That is the nature of evil in the world. I think the point most are trying to make is that this is a person who does not believe in evil. From what I gather, he is one who thinks socialism will create a utopia in which there will be no need for weapons. It is poetic justice on one hand, but we should not take pleasure in another person's loss or pain--agreed.

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    Oh well, not my problem...let the liberal figure it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keboostman View Post
    I am amazed and dismayed by this thread. Why would anyone rejoice in someone being robbed even if we didn't agree with his views? This tells me how sick some people on this forum are!!!

    Good bye.
    Sorry that you took it that way. I'm not glad that he got robbed. But in every crime that happens there is a hope; a hope that people will learn that it's OK to defend themselves, and to possess the means of doing so.

    And sometimes that is hoping too much but I hope for it anyway. No disrespect to Mr. Keillor but the robbery does go in stark contrast to his expressed ideas that if you grant people some level of trust they will reciprocate by conducting themselves honorably. And that type of thing is self-disproving by incidents such as this.

    Dude, I was a preacher for 12 years. I'm not sitting around wishing harm on these folks, but I am wishing that they'd wake up.

    No slight taken where none was intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lance22 View Post
    Sorry that you took it that way. I'm not glad that he got robbed. But in every crime that happens there is a hope; a hope that people will learn that it's OK to defend themselves, and to possess the means of doing so.

    And sometimes that is hoping too much but I hope for it anyway. No disrespect to Mr. Keillor but the robbery does go in stark contrast to his expressed ideas that if you grant people some level of trust they will reciprocate by conducting themselves honorably. And that type of thing is self-disproving by incidents such as this.

    Dude, I was a preacher for 12 years. I'm not sitting around wishing harm on these folks, but I am wishing that they'd wake up.

    No slight taken where none was intended.
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    I agree 100% with you on this one.
    Anti-gunners seem to believe that if we just pass enough laws, we can have utopia. Unfortunately, utopia is NOT one of our choices.

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    I think gun control is an issue that we can no longer afford to be seen as standing in favor of,” Keillor says. “Gun control means something so different in Manhattan than it means in the country. There’s no way for the Party to take just one stance. It’s way down the list of important issues, and I think that we Democrats are too emotional about this. We get all dizzy at the thought of people buying assault weapons for example. I don't think assault weapons should be legal, but I don't think it's anything to lose sleep over. There are a few thousand gun fetishists who like to put on camo (XXXL) and stand around holding guns and get their pictures taken, and they're fairly harmless for the most part, and in our revulsion at them we piss off twenty million hunters. Gun control laws tend to reflect an urban point of view — in the big city, somebody with a gun is weird and dangerous — and as liberals we ought to be reluctant to let city people lord it over rural people. If Uncle Elmer wants to keep a machine gun on his farm west of Yankton, let him keep it. There are bigger problems.”

    When bank robbers roamed the streets of my old neighborhood of North Hollywood with semi-automatic weapons, gun control seemed like a gigantic problem. But given a choice between gun control and a living wage, I think I’d opt for economic justice over passing laws to deprive Uncle Elmer of his firearms fetish — especially if losing Uncle Elmer’s vote meant losing another election to a GOP/Halliburton conglomerate.

    Anyone else incensed? Buck up or stop reading, leave the room, and sulk about the election while I ask Keillor if there any other positions Democrats should jettison.

    he may be somewhat pompous,but hes not exactly the brady bunch.this statement doesn't bother me at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by keboostman View Post
    I am amazed and dismayed by this thread. Why would anyone rejoice in someone being robbed even if we didn't agree with his views? This tells me how sick some people on this forum are!!!

    Good bye.
    Don't run away so soon. I don't think folks are necessarily rejoicing in his misfortune. It's more like an I told ya so sort of thing... It's like telling a drunk fool not to urinate on an electric fence. You can tell them over and over, but for some it just doesn't matter how much you tell them. They're going to do it anyway and get the shock of their life.

    Sometimes folks have to reach the bottom of the barrel so to speak before they wake up and pick themselves up. Sometimes they don't ever wake up. Hopefully, this experience taught him something.

    We are each responsible for ourselves as an individual. I am responsible for me and you are responsible for you. You are NOT responsible for me nor am I responsible for you. This numbnut that got mugged doesn't understand this concept which is why I am going to be hard on him. Not because he got mugged, but because he probably learned ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from this experience nor of the experiences of any others before him.

    I firmly believe there are 3 types of people in the world.
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    2. Smart people: These are the type that make mistakes just like all of us, but manage to learn from them.
    3. Wise people: These are the ones that learn from watching Fools and Smart people so they don't have to get mugged themselves!
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    Quote Originally Posted by keboostman View Post
    I am amazed and dismayed by this thread. Why would anyone rejoice in someone being robbed even if we didn't agree with his views? This tells me how sick some people on this forum are!!!

    Good bye.
    I don't think that anyone is rejoicing...they just realize that trying to convince anti's about the importance of SD as an individual right is about effective as urinating into the wind. Some people have to get 'wet' before they understand.
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    I do not see it.....

    Quote Originally Posted by keboostman View Post
    I am amazed and dismayed by this thread. Why would anyone rejoice in someone being robbed even if we didn't agree with his views? This tells me how sick some people on this forum are!!!

    Good bye.
    the 'rejoicing' that is! Can you point to a specific sentence, or phrase that actually qualifies as rejoicing over the fact of the robbery,as opposed to comments merely ridiculing 'ol Guy Noir's political views? Calling persons posting here 'sick' on no real evidence is rather absurd, to my mind. If I missed an ironclad example of outright joy over the fact, please, reference it. Thanks,and 'happy trails to you, until....
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    I assume.....

    when Keboostman said 'good-bye' he meant it!
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    Like wow, I agree with carry ok. The robbers were the victims that were forced to rob the store in order to provide for their victimized families. Garrison Keillor was just used as a tool to help bring things back into balance in our universe. He should be very happy and proud (sarcasm, folks...)

    But, in all seriousness, do I "rejoice" over his getting robbed? Heck no. I pray every day that LEO's are always where they need to be in order to prevent or solve a crime, and that justice is always done. I also pray that people (including journalists in the Main Stream Media) get some sense into their heads regarding the Second Amendment. But that's begs another thread...
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