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    Teens Charged With Carjacking, Home Invasion - News Story - WNEM Saginaw

    Teens Charged With Carjacking, Home Invasion
    5 Teens Accused Of Tying Up Couple, Ransacking Home

    POSTED: 1:15 pm EDT August 20, 2009
    UPDATED: 2:44 pm EDT August 20, 2009

    FLINT, Mich. -- A group of teens are facing charges Thursday after a string of crimes in Flint.

    Genesee County sheriff Robert Pickell said two of the suspects will be charged as adults.

    The teens, all between the ages of 14 and 16, called themselves "The Certified Hot Boyz Gang" and Pickell described how they tortured a couple a few weeks ago.

    Pickell also said during the news conference Thursday morning that the teens were unafraid to pulling the trigger if they found it necessary.

    Deputies said two weeks ago, five young men missed a bus and desperate for a ride, they carjacked a couple.

    Authorities said after they forced them into their home, the teens tied them up, beat them and ransacked the home – all within a 45 minute time frame.

    Police said the group wanted to steal the couple’s two cars and one wanted to kill them, but ended up taking a van and other property.

    Pickell said teen violence on this scale is very common.

    “Even though they were young and very violent, they were smart enough to know the police could track them,” said Pickell.

    Two of the teens have been charged as adults with armed robbery, first-degree home invasion, larceny from a person and felony firearm.

    “It’s a sign of our times,” said Flint Police Chief Alvern Locke. “You look at the games they play on the video games – obviously some issues there somewhere.”

    Three other teens are facing unknown charges, but have not been charged yet.
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    Oh yeah - right - blame it all on video games, jeez...........
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    Flint has been rated worst than Detroit as for violence
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    I learned quickly to not go to Flint unless absolutely necessary.
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    Boys will be boyz? Must be video games...never not getting spanked hard enough by fathers-in-residence.
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    Certified Hot Boys! Sounds like they need a new writer.
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    Lets play a game called kill the little criminals before they become big criminals,I would like to see that game played more often
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    If it isn't the video games, it must be the movies and tv! Never their environment or lack of parental influence huh?

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    In the "blink of an eye" speed that most violent encounters take place, I doubt if the age of the attackers would even register with me until well after I have put them down with gunshots!

    It's just about all you can do to identify a deadly weapon, register the imminent threat in your mind and respond with deadly force in such encounters.

    Identifying the race, gender or age of the attacker is such insignificant and irrelevant information that I doubt if the brain even registers it anywhere except the deep subconscious. Certainly not part of the "fight or flight" reflex.

    So, based on how I train and prior experiences, I don't think I will hesitate to respond based on the fact that "It may only be a 13 or 14 year old kid." It will be more along the line of, "Too bad for him. He shouldn't have tried to do a man's crime!"
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    I'm sure they can be rehabilitated to become upstanding citizens. Just kidding, they never need to see the light of day again as far as I'm concerned.

    Once sent to prison they can learn from the trash of society and lift weights all day so when then are set loose on society they will be less worthy of the oxygen they breathe.
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    Pickell said teen violence on this scale is very common.
    No need to raise the alarm there sheriff... we wouldn't want their mothers to worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooterX View Post
    If it isn't the video games, it must be the movies and tv! Never their environment or lack of parental influence huh?
    Actually, in many cases it's a combination of everything you mentioned.

    Be sure to read Stop Teaching Our Kids to Kill : A Call to Action Against TV, Movie and Video Game Violence, by retired Lt. Colonel Dave Grossman.

    Grossman is an internationally recognized expert on the psychology of killing, and taught psychology at West Point.
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    I am always shaking my head in disbelief at the terrible crimes that young men and women are involving themselves in as reported within these threads almost daily.
    There are a lot of young dirtbags in training all over this country.

    It is important to remember that if attacked, the response must be one that is violent and 'unfair'...you may only have one chance for survival.

    We all have guns, we all go to 'a' range, but it is important to get into some kind of training/course(s) where you are challanged and grow to be better able to handle that 'situation' whenever it might present itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defensive Arms View Post
    Actually, in many cases it's a combination of everything you mentioned.

    Be sure to read Stop Teaching Our Kids to Kill : A Call to Action Against TV, Movie and Video Game Violence, by retired Lt. Colonel Dave Grossman.

    Grossman is an internationally recognized expert on the psychology of killing, and taught psychology at West Point.
    DA,

    I haven't read LTC Grossman's book. So, I can't argue with his judgment. But, I just don't see it contributing more than in a minor way to a mindset which commits violent acts.

    My kids all grew up playing video games, watching tv and movies, many of which were war-themes. They have yet to kill, attack, maim, or injure anyone.

    We are quick to jump on those who blame guns as the cause for violence when we recognize that it is something inside the BG which creates the action/crime. I have a hard time jumping all over an inanimate piece of plastic and whatever else video games are made of as the culprit.

    Now, let's talk about parenting; or who they hang with; or how our society has systematically devalued human life. I buy those as having much greater impact on the criminal and violent choices of these boys.

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    The problem with media violence (music, games, movies, etc.) is the CONSTANT and unrelenting bombardment from all sides. When this is combined with poor parenting the results are easy to predict.
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