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    Soldier Dies at Boot Camp South Carolina

    Here is the news article so far, but it is being investigated

    Soldier dies of heat stroke South Carolina Milwaukee basic training

    There is more to this, I believe there is Negligence to the death. Can't say more due to daughter is currently there
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    So if the instructor knew it was hot and noticed the recruit unsteady on his feet...I hope the article left out some things...like say, giving the recruit water, or putting him in shade or some A/C controlled environment...
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    Or have someone go with the soldier so that he would not bounce out of the truck or secure him in.
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    Man, that's where I took basic back in the summer of '75. It gets hotter than hades down there and we were always advised to drink water. They had water buffaloes everywhere for us. Bad news....
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    Fort Jackson is hotter than blazes during the summer! I was there from late July to late November 1991 and remember coming back into the barracks after a road march and my BDUs feeling as wet as if I had just jumped into a swimming pool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mi2az View Post
    Here is the news article so far, but it is being investigated

    Soldier dies of heat stroke South Carolina Milwaukee basic training

    There is more to this, I believe there is Negligence to the death. Can't say more due to daughter is currently there
    Basic Training is a very controlled environment. I guarantee there was water in the back of the truck for this soldier and during his march. What we don't know is if he was maintaining hydration as instructed.

    Heat stroke is very dangerous and can escalate rapidly. Every prior heat stoke or heat exhaustion casualty has to wear, typically red tape, on his helmet or softcap to identify him/her for close monitoring. Typically you don't know the prior history of a soldier attending basic other than what happens in basic.

    Let's not pass judgement. It will be investigated by CID thoroughly from every angle. The Army is very open about incidents such as this and there will be a report after the investigation. In the meantime may God provide strength and comfort to the fallen warriors family.

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    Is it possible that the soldier had an undiagnosed heart condition?

    Will an autopsy be performed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    Is it possible that the soldier had an undiagnosed heart condition?

    Will an autopsy be performed?
    Yes, it will most certainly be performed. Family can request one also, if it's not an automatic due to the circumstances. I'm sure they want answers.

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    A recruit also died last week at Parris Island, I only know this because his obituary is in the local paper today: Pvt. Adrien Augustin | Cincinnati.com | The Cincinnati Enquirer

    My time at boot camp lasted from July-October in Parris Island, and to say it was hot down there would be an understatement. We constantly had to push water, a lot of water. Even so we still had heat cases, which were taken very seriously. During one evolution we had a recruit get heat stroke, and it was only through the quick actions of other recruits that he was stabilized until the Docs got to him.

    It is unfortunate that these young men were lost during training after volunteering to fight for their country. It is vital that service members learn to hydrate and treat heat casualties during boot camp/basic training, because we aren't currently fighting in Antarctica, and your body has to get used to taking in over a gallon of water a day to be combat effective in SW Asia.


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    PARRIS ISLAND, S.C. – A 2007 Newport High School graduate has died during basic training at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot on Parris Island, S.C.
    Pvt. Adrien Edmund DeAngelo Augustin, 20, of Covington was remembered Friday in Northern Kentucky as an avid athlete and outgoing person. Augustin collapsed Monday after a physical fitness test, according to the Marines...

    ...The Associated Press reported Friday that Second Lt. Sharon Hyland said an autopsy has been performed to determine the cause of his death, but the results were not back yet.

    The autopsy is part of the death investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeyeLCPL View Post

    My time at boot camp lasted from July-October in Parris Island, and to say it was hot down there would be an understatement.
    Aug to Nov for myself...And I agree 100% with you....

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    Somebody is likely derelict in their duty to their soldiers. A family friend lost a son (a conditioned athlete) at Camp Lejeune 19 years ago. The company captain lost his Marine career as a result, and the blame legitimately fell to him.

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    terrible,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mi2az View Post
    Here is the news article so far, but it is being investigated

    Soldier dies of heat stroke South Carolina Milwaukee basic training

    There is more to this, I believe there is Negligence to the death. Can't say more due to daughter is currently there
    As a corpsman, I was taught this: face is pale, raise the tail. "Face is red, raise the head." Where was the medic on this march? This man should have been in one position or the other.
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    Heat stroke is a sneaky thing. This is why athletes have died from it every year. All of these deaths are tragic. Better education may reduce the number of such deaths, but whether it is pre-season football practice or training to fight in a hot climate, the danger will always be there.
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