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    Interestingly, the only kind of pistol ammo I saw at the local Wal-Mart was the .40. It was made by Winchester... Well, who knows if it will last...

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    Yet the VA State Police have cut their mandatory quals from 2 to 1 per year due to shortages and costs. Thats about 50 rounds day, 50 night, for 100 per year. Maybe ICE actually believes in ongoing competency, but somehow I doubt it.
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    Actually my point was, if Winchester is making 200,000,00 rounds for the gov't,
    that's 200,000,000 less for us shooters. The 10,000 per agent was off the top of my head, I have no idea how many agents there are, I was just suggesting that it was an excessive amount of ammo for a gov't agency.
    I did do some research and found there are about 30,000 employees which equals more than 6,500 rounds/employee or 1,300 rds/employee/year.
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    The word around here (lots of BP agents here) is that if you befriend one of them, they will likely supply you with as much 40 ammo as you can use. Is that um above board? I would partake if I knew I would not end up in the news or the hoosegow because of it. How about if you offer to buy it from an agent? Potential crime there?

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    Anybody know how many rounds go to Iraq and Afghanistan? Two wars + eight years = ammunition shortage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojust View Post
    Anybody know how many rounds go to Iraq and Afghanistan? Two wars + eight years = ammunition shortage.
    Do they use .40 s&w over there, I don't think so?

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    They're about half the way there...
    The have the contract with Winchester, now they need to secure a contract with a crematorium.
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    That should be plenty of ammo for them, since agents aren't actually appowed to use their firearms to stop the stampede of illgeals. If they do, they go to prison, even if the illegals are bringing in a cargo of drugs.
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    I have a good friend who is deploying to Afghanistan in the next couple of weeks. We talked about ammo the other night and he indicated those authorized to carry sidearms are issued 9mm hardball for their M9's. (He's in a position to know since he manages weapon/ammo supply for his company.)

    Consequently, I conclude that zero .40 is going to the military.

    On a side note...it stinks that they can't use anything but hardball. Since we're a member of NATO we have to abide by their rules, which apparently prohibit use of the good stuff readily available to civvies in the good old USA.
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