More bad ammunition news.

More bad ammunition news.

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    More bad ammunition news.

    According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, Winchester has signed a contract with the Immigration and customs service for 200,000,000 rounds of .40 S&W ammunition over the next five years.
    Those guys must do alot of shooting. Isn't that about 10,000 rounds per agent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    ... over the next five years ... about 10,000 rounds per agent.
    I'd hope they would shoot that much. Somehow I doubt it, across an agency, but it would do my heart good if it were true.

    Now, if they can simply get their politics straight, we'd really have something.
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    Thyey get a case,i believe its like 250 or 500 rounds a month to shoot,I got hold of some of the Remington 155 grn HP they carry and It seems like hot stuff.box has R40SWI
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    I bet Winchester could sell 400,000,000 at Wally World alone.
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    Well by my math......

    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, Winchester has signed a contract with the Immigration and customs service for 200,000,000 rounds of .40 S&W ammunition over the next five years.
    Those guys must do alot of shooting. Isn't that about 10,000 rounds per agent.


    10,000 per agent over five years is 2000 per agent per year which is just over three 50 round boxes a month per agent. That does not seem like much to me, I would think more is better when it comes to practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbqgrill View Post
    10,000 per agent over five years is 2000 per agent per year which is just over three 50 round boxes a month per agent. That does not seem like much to me, I would think more is better when it comes to practice.

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    Yep. 166 rounds per month. Not all that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    Those guys must do alot of shooting. Isn't that about 10,000 rounds per agent.
    Perhaps, but only about 10 per illegal alien...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Perhaps, but only about 10 per illegal alien...
    ain't that the truth!

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    10,000 per agent over five years is 2000 per agent per year which is just over three 50 round boxes a month per agent. That does not seem like much to me, I would think more is better when it comes to practice.
    Or about 17 rounds per illegal alien.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, Winchester has signed a contract with the Immigration and customs service for 200,000,000 rounds of .40 S&W ammunition over the next five years.
    Those guys must do alot of shooting. Isn't that about 10,000 rounds per agent.
    I don't know how many agents there are, but following your math:

    10,000 rounds per agent / 5 years = 2,000 rounds per agent per year
    200+ rounds per weapons qual, 2x per year = 1,600 remain maximum

    1,600 rounds of ammunition per person, per year, seems reasonable for additional training, etc, including the 46 (15 x 3 + 1) rounds they likely carry on their person while on duty.
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    With a long term contract, maybe Winchester will feel confident enough to put some more money in capacity. If I was CFO of an ammunition company, I would be hesitant to invest money in increased capacity for a short tem shortage. I would want to know that demand would stay high long enoungh to complete any expansion and to payback the additional investment.

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    Maybe my math is wrong.

    One shot, one kill. Why so much ammo? Can't be that many of them.
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