STUPID: Pharmacy "Readiness" test

STUPID: Pharmacy "Readiness" Test

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    Happened in PA, good thing nobody carrying a real gun was around since, the fool could have been shot.

    Babette Perry files lawsuit against Hampton Behavioral Health Center and Universal Health Services, alleging employers staged mock robbery and kidnapping gone horribly awry. | Popehat

    Concerned about a recent wave of robberies perpetrated by oxycontin fiends against health clinics with access to the addictive narcotic, Hampton devised what risk managers might call a “readiness test,” in which employees are drilled and put through mock or simulated crisis, in order to assess their preparation and to allow the company to improve its response to such a crisis. On December 24, 2007, Ms. Perry alleges that she was the subject of such a test.


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    I read this and can not believe that anyone, anywhere would believe this is a good practice. Try this in Texas and there is a high probability you will need paramedics or a coroner.
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    Idiots

    Here's what you do:

    1. person approached by gunman appears to cooperate while triggering alarm with foot.

    2. Security guard shoots gunman with the ubiquitious .357 magnum.

    or

    2. Armed pharmacy tech flanks gunman and goes boom.

    or, in the case of multiple attackers, armed store clerks go boom

    or

    German Shepard kept by pharmacy bites gunman in the crotch and pharmacy tech goes boom

    Since we have reverted to an age of banditry and piracy, this alternative is not unrealistic. But everybody needs to be trained.
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    Part of me really wants to ask if this was a joke posted in the Onion. The what if's list alone would reach half way to the Pacific. Any Risk analysis at all would have shut this idea down from the get-go. I will skip over the Armed Citizen or Off duty, or even On-Duty cop what if's altogether. How many people CCW at work quietly simply because there is no rule against it. The Victim here did not know it was a drill, I have gone into combat with women barely 5ft tall that could outshoot most men.

    My question is what if she had a clean shot and took it. She would be in the right, I am not sure about the laws there but I am pretty sure she would be covered. The people running this are open to reckless endangerment, and would be up on manslaughter charges if she had taken care of a Hostage Situation that she by their own admission believed was real.

    At the very least what if she had dialed 911on her cell and left the phone on the counter. A couple of officers, or even a SWAT sniper taking a clean shot. I can dial 911 on my cell without looking at it and so can most of you I bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Luttrel View Post
    I read this and can not believe that anyone, anywhere would believe this is a good practice.
    Ditto.
    Very much unprofessional and just out right clownish, like these clowns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by InspectorGadget View Post
    Part of me really wants to ask if this was a joke posted in the Onion.
    No joke.

    See: Lawsuit in Burlco over mock holdup | Philadelphia Inquirer | 09/14/2009
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    Oh my word... if that just isn't about the stupidest thing I've ever heard, I don't know what it!

    When an unwitting participant in a drill which is to simulate an armed robbery and that participant does not know it is a drill, well guess what? It's an armed robbery!

    She deserves a rather large cash settlement for their stupidity.

    You can't predict the lasting effects of that kind of trauma on an unwitting participant. What if that participant had been through an actual armed robbery before? What if she witnessed a loved one killed during an armed robbery before?

    The effect of that "staged" incident could have very real and lasting psychological effect on the woman to the point where it literally ruins her life.

    What is even more disturbing is that it appears to have happened at a "mental health" facility! For crying out loud... Don't those mental health "professionals" (and I use the term loosely) think things through before they create such an absurd training drill? Apparently not!

    And then finally, what if one of the "unwitting" participants had a real firearm with them? I am sure, firearms are not allowed on the property... but never the less...

    Again, I'm not a sue happy person, but in this case, I think some monetary compensation is in order for this colossal blunder and utter stupidity!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
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    What is even more disturbing is that it appears to have happened at a "mental health" facility! For crying out loud... Don't those mental health "professionals" (and I use the term loosely) think things through before they create such an absurd training drill? Apparently not!
    FWIIW -- nearly all mental health "professionals" are very anti-RKBA.

    They likely never thought of the real danger of someone really getting shot. OTOH, you are right -- what were they thinking about re: the trauma and post-trauma syndrome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Luttrel View Post
    I read this and can not believe that anyone, anywhere would believe this is a good practice. Try this in Texas and there is a high probability you will need paramedics or a coroner.
    It would look very similar to this.
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    That was a really stupid move, they are just lucky no one got shot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    if that just isn't about the stupidest thing I've ever heard, I don't know what it!
    My exact thoughts.

    And in PA, where it's relatively easy to get a LTCF.

    Such a situation is a self-defense shooting just waiting to happen.

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    Pretty stupid...
    Someone could have easily become a lead magnent...
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    And just think, these are college educated idiots that came up with this training scenario....

    Wow what retards

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    I cannot believe anybody with a working brain cell thought this was gonna be a good idea,sumpin tells me they was also sampling the oxys to see why addicts wanted them so bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paco View Post
    It would look very similar to this.
    ha ha ha ha har good
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