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    Gunfire training at the mall

    Gunfire at the mall
    Police, security and employees collaborate in active shooter exercise
    By Leischen Stelter - 09.22.2009

    MIAMI—When gunshots rang out at the Dadeland Mall on Aug. 30, law enforcement and security staff fortunately knew what to expect. It was just a drill. More than 75 members of the Dadeland Miami Police Department and nearly 100 mall security personnel, store employees and volunteers, were participating in an active shooter drill at one of South Florida’s largest malls.

    Organizers of the drill used starter pistols to simulate real gunshots, fired by an actor who was staged at a common area of the mall. “We wanted to make it as realistic as possible and had officers there from the district who would normally work in that area during mall hours,” said Major Mike Herrera from the Miami-Dade Police Department. “We felt an exercise of this nature would help our officers practice with security personnel who would be actually reporting the suspicious incident to us and help us to better coordinate police response.”

    Using personnel who would typically be called on to respond to an event like this, instead of SWAT or other specialized police teams for example, gave officers and store employees an opportunity to identify and practice their roles.

    In active shooter scenario, police are trained that the first officers to arrive on the scene respond immediately to diffuse the situation and stop the shooter. “One thing we emphasized to security is to minimize their contact with the suspicious person,” said Herrera. “In this scenario [security’s] role is to serve as the eyes and ears and their role is in the evacuation of patrons and employees and keeping people from the affected area.”

    Security and store employees need to collect as much information as possible on the scene and know how to succinctly transfer that information to police. “They need to provide as much detail as possible over the radio to a dispatcher to provide police with as much detail as possible including a description of the subject, the activity they’re observing and so on,” he said.

    In addition to identifying roles, this type of drill was also an opportunity for police to familiarize themselves with the blueprints of the mall, including ingress and egress points of the facility. Herrera said that police also depend on security to show them the nuances of the building.

    Herrera said this drill successfully demonstrated the multi-party response to this type of situation. “It was a great opportunity for police and mall security to foster an excellent working relationship,” said Herrera. “It brought it to a higher degree of cooperation and interaction between the two entities and provided a level of comfort to all involved that, God forbid this should occur, all parties can work closely to bring this incident to a prompt and successful conclusion.”

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    “One thing we emphasized to security is to minimize their contact with the suspicious person,” said Herrera. “In this scenario [security’s] role is to serve as the eyes and ears and their role is in the evacuation of patrons and employees and keeping people from the affected area.”

    Security and store employees need to collect as much information as possible on the scene and know how to succinctly transfer that information to police. “They need to provide as much detail as possible over the radio to a dispatcher to provide police with as much detail as possible including a description of the subject, the activity they’re observing and so on,” he said.
    Further proof for those who prior might have been confused that mall security is not actually a 'security' at all.
    They are simply "eyes and ears" being semi-mobile humanoid versions of CCTV cameras.

    Useless and of no real aid to a person/shoopers as in an actual emergency, such as this sort.

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    Hopefully, this happened while the mall was closed and the LEO's had full control of the area. I can only imagine what the outcome might have been if a shopper with a CC permit, unaware of the drill, started throwing live ammo at the "actor" with a starter pistol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova Glocker View Post
    Hopefully, this happened while the mall was closed and the LEO's had full control of the area. I can only imagine what the outcome might have been if a shopper with a CC permit, unaware of the drill, started throwing live ammo at the "actor" with a starter pistol!
    Was thinking the same thing!
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    Paul Blart could have saved the day...

    Practice helps, but add in thousands of people walking around and the practice scene is not recognizable.OMOYMV
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