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    i have read all of the posts. as a ret. us army 1st Sgt,26 yrs 3 cbt tours. i have seen and done things that i will not talk about. but the oath i took still holds for after all these years. i will be glad to shoot him myself. i saw too many buddies die to be forgiving. God bless the USA.
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    Love it tiwee, brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiwee View Post
    Ants. There is no conspiracy among ants to leave the nest and forage. They have been imprinted at birth for the task they are to do. When they overtake, kill, and dismember an earthworm, they are not conspiring with each other. Each individual does his part and the big picture will work out. To say the next earthworm will not die because the ants who did in the last earthworm were not conspiring is a surreal line of thought.

    When children are brainwashed from birth into a system of belief, when adults become convinced the non-believer must die, when mainline clerics continue to call for death to non-believers we have something akin to an ant colony. A few loonies do buy into the indoctrination and do carry out the wishes of the clerics. These loonies may not conspire with each other before each murder, before each honor killing, before each stoning, before each caning for not wearing the proper clothing, before each call to murder an offending author, but they do commit the crimes in the name of Islam. And all of Islam stands by and clucks their tongue while the swarm marches on in quest of the pre-programmed goals. I can understand moderate Islam not intervening. The reality is many agree with the goals of the terrorists if not the means.

    What I cannot understand is the targets of the conquest not believing the history, current events, nor the strategic objective of radical Islam. This (fill in the blank) acted alone, therefore everything else doesn't exist and the next attack will not happen. Please.
    I have followed this thread with too much fury over what took place to make objective comments. If I were able to though I would want them to sound like the one above, well said tiwee.
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    I received this today

    Hasan Linked to Sept. 11 Hijackers

    Sunday, November 8, 2009 1:19 PM

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    Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army major suspected of killing 13 people and wounding 29 others at Fort Hood, worshipped at the same mosque as two of the 9/11 terrorists.

    According to the London Sunday Telegraph, Hasan attended services at the Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Va., in 2001 at the same time as Sept. 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour. Funeral services for Hasan's mother also was held at that mosque.

    The FBI wants to interrogate Hasan to see if he met or knew al-Hamzi or Hanjour, reports the Telegraph.

    The imam at the mosque at the time Hasan attended services there was Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical cleric who has been described as a supporter of al-Qaida. A third 9/11 hijacker attended al-Awlaki's lectures in California.

    Hasan Linked to Sept. 11 Hijackers

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    Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army major suspected of killing 13 people and wounding 29 others at Fort Hood, worshipped at the same mosque as two of the 9/11 terrorists.
    Good thing to investigate, which they are. Let's see what they find here besides that he worshiped at the same mosque.

    What I cannot understand is the targets of the conquest not believing the history, current events, nor the strategic objective of radical Islam. This (fill in the blank) acted alone, therefore everything else doesn't exist and the next attack will not happen. Please
    I know the strategist objectives of some groups of people who have radical Islamic beliefs. I don't know that this guy was a member of any of those groups.

    From USA Today: Cone [the Commanding General of Ft. Hood] "There is no evidence that suggests a terrorist attack". The day after the attack.

    From the same source: Texas House Republican Rep Mc Caul: "From an intelligence standpoint, the essential key is whether there were overseas communications."

    I think the latter is a good criteria to determine whether this was a terrorist attack. And I think I'll stick with the military commander on site for a current evaluation based on what is presently known. I also think the military and civilian officials have a reasonable definition of "terrorist attack" implied. I'll form conclusions at the end of all the investigations after evidence of such attacks is either found or not. Right now I don't know these things.

    Best to all. And a hope and prayer for an easing of the suffering of the wounded and their families and the families of the killed. A great tragedy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamlet View Post
    Good thing to investigate, which they are. Let's see what they find here besides that he worshiped at the same mosque.



    I know the strategist objectives of some groups of people who have radical Islamic beliefs. I don't know that this guy was a member of any of those groups.

    From USA Today: Cone [the Commanding General of Ft. Hood] "There is no evidence that suggests a terrorist attack". The day after the attack.

    From the same source: Texas House Republican Rep Mc Caul: "From an intelligence standpoint, the essential key is whether there were overseas communications."

    I think the latter is a good criteria to determine whether this was a terrorist attack. And I think I'll stick with the military commander on site for a current evaluation based on what is presently known. I also think the military and civilian officials have a reasonable definition of "terrorist attack" implied. I'll form conclusions at the end of all the investigations after evidence of such attacks is either found or not. Right now I don't know these things.

    Best to all. And a hope and prayer for an easing of the suffering of the wounded and their families and the families of the killed. A great tragedy....
    I agree.

    I my humble opinion, it was a "terroristic attack." Was he part of an organized "terrorist plot"? I don't know yet.

    However, we need to avoid smearing with a large brush.

    He is reported to have graduated from the same college that I and much of my family did. He is reported to have attended at the same time my daughter did. He is reported to have lived in the same apartment complex on the same street as my son does. He is reported to have had a Virginia CHP.

    However, that has nothing to do with me or my family, nor does it reflect on the school, the apartment complex, or on all Virginia CHP holders, as the Antis are postulating.
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    Interesting;

    Imam tied to 9/11 hijackers praises Hasan - Tragedy at Fort Hood- msnbc.com

    FORT HOOD, Texas - A radical American imam on Yemen's most wanted militant list who had contact with two 9/11 hijackers on Monday praised alleged Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan as a hero on his personal Web site.

    The posting on the Web site for Anwar al Awlaki, who was a spiritual leader at two mosques where three 9/11 hijackers worshipped, said American Muslims who condemned the attacks on the Texas military base last week are hypocrites who have committed treason against their religion.

    Awlaki said the only way a Muslim can justify serving in the U.S. military is if he intends to "follow in the footsteps of men like Nidal."
    "Nidal Hassan (sic) is a hero. He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people," Awlaki wrote.


    Two U.S. intelligence officials told The Associated Press the Web site was Awlaki's. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence collection. Awlaki did not immediately respond to an attempt to contact him through the Web site.

    Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, is accused of killing 13 and wounding 29 in a shooting spree Thursday.

    Authorities say Hasan fired off more than 100 rounds before civilian police shot him in the torso. He was taken into custody and eventually moved to an Army hospital in San Antonio, where he was in stable condition and able to talk, said Dewey Mitchell, a Brooke Army Medical Center spokesman.

    Sixteen victims remained hospitalized with gunshot wounds, and seven were in intensive care.

    Sought by Yemen
    Hasan's family attended the Dar al Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Va., where Awlaki was preaching in 2001. Hasan's mother's funeral was held at the mosque on May 31, 2001, according to her obituary in the Roanoke Times newspaper, around the same time two 9/11 hijackers worshipped at the mosque and while Awlaki was preaching.

    Awlaki is a native-born U.S. citizen who left the United States in 2002, eventually traveling to Yemen. He was released from a Yemeni jail last year and has since gone missing. He is on Yemen's most wanted militant list, according to three Yemeni security officials.




    The officials say Awlaki was arrested in 2006 with a small group of suspected al-Qaida militants in the capital San'a. They say he was released more than a year later after signing a pledge he will not break the law or leave the country. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

    The Falls Church mosque is one of the largest on the East Coast, and thousands of worshippers attend prayers and services there every week.

    Imam Johari Abdul-Malik, outreach director at Dar al Hijrah, said he did not know whether Hasan ever attended the mosque but confirmed that the Hasan family participated in services there. Abdul-Malik said the Hasans were not leaders at the mosque and their attendance was normal.

    Known to investigators
    A former senior U.S. intelligence official said Awlaki is well known in the intelligence community.

    The Homeland Security Department's intelligence division became concerned about Awlaki late last year when he published a new group of violent lectures targeting U.S. audiences, according to a Jan. 22, 2009 intelligence note.

    On Dec. 23, 2008, Awlaki, on his Web site, encouraged Muslims across the world to kill U.S. troops in Iraq. Awlaki also used these postings to declare his support for the Somali terrorist group al-Shabaab, according to the Homeland Security intelligence note, obtained by The Associated Press.

    In December of last year, Customs officials intercepted a flash drive of Awlaki's lectures that his wife sent from Yemen to an Islamic publishing house in Denver, the intelligence note said.

    Awlaki told the FBI in 2001 that, before he moved to Virginia in early 2001, he met with 9/11 hijacker Nawaf al-Hazmi several times in San Diego. Al-Hazmi was at the time living with Khalid al-Mihdhar, another hijacker. Al-Hazmi and another hijacker, Hani Hanjour, attended the Dar al Hijrah mosque in Virginia in early April 2001.




    In his FBI interview, Awlaki denied ever meeting with al-Hazmi and Hanjour while in Virginia.

    He was investigated by the FBI in 1999 and 2000 after it was learned that he may have been contacted by a possible procurement agent for Osama bin Laden. During this investigation, the FBI learned that Awlaki knew people involved in raising money for Hamas, a Palestinian group on the U.S. State Department's terrorist list.
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    Fort Hood Shooter Tried to Contact al Qaeda Terrorists, Officials Say - ABC News

    Officials: U.S. Army Told of Hasan's Contacts with al Qaeda

    Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used 'Electronic Means' to Connect with Terrorists

    U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.



    This sure doesn't give me any warm fuzzy feelings.

    What I'd like to know is: Did he act alone? Was there another shooter?

    Here's what we do know:

    1) The shooter was muslim. That IS a pertinent fact in this case.
    2) He was a US soldier who publicly justified suicide attacks against US soldiers.
    3) He shouted "Allahu Akbar!" just before he started shooting.
    4) He deliberately targeted people who could not shoot back, like a typical cowardly jihadist.

    You can play semantics all you want, but an act of terror is an act of terror.
    Seriously, what else are you going to call this? Sudden Jihad Syndrome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
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    This sure doesn't give me any warm fuzzy feelings.

    What I'd like to know is: Did he act alone? Was there another shooter?

    Here's what we do know:

    1) The shooter was muslim. That IS a pertinent fact in this case.
    2) He was a US soldier who publicly justified suicide attacks against US soldiers.
    3) He shouted "Allahu Akbar!" just before he started shooting.
    4) He deliberately targeted people who could not shoot back, like a typical cowardly jihadist.

    You can play semantics all you want, but an act of terror is an act of terror.
    Seriously, what else are you going to call this? Sudden Jihad Syndrome?
    And are there more (plans) in the works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by larefugee View Post
    Since the shooter is military, what's the due process here? Can they run him through a court martial and then take him out back to face a firing squad?
    I sure as hope so!
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    General Casey and Janet Napolitano have both come out and stated that their most imminent fear is the safety of muslims living in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    General Casey and Janet Napolitano have both come out and stated that their most imminent fear is the safety of muslims living in America.

    Infuriating and enough to make me puke. However it does not surprise me coming from Napolitano.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    Fort Hood Shooter Tried to Contact al Qaeda Terrorists, Officials Say - ABC News




    This sure doesn't give me any warm fuzzy feelings.

    What I'd like to know is: Did he act alone? Was there another shooter?

    Here's what we do know:

    1) The shooter was muslim. That IS a pertinent fact in this case.
    2) He was a US soldier who publicly justified suicide attacks against US soldiers.
    3) He shouted "Allahu Akbar!" just before he started shooting.
    4) He deliberately targeted people who could not shoot back, like a typical cowardly jihadist.

    You can play semantics all you want, but an act of terror is an act of terror.
    Seriously, what else are you going to call this? Sudden Jihad Syndrome?
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    Hasan has lawyered-up:

    Retired Col. John P. Galligan said he was contacted Monday by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's family and was headed to an Army hospital in San Antonio to meet Hasan.
    Galligan asked investigators not to question his client and expressed doubt that the suspect would be able to get a fair trial, given the widespread attention to the case.
    A radical American imam living in Yemen who had contact with two 9/11 hijackers praised Hasan as a hero as a hero on his personal Web site Monday.

    The posting on the Web site for Anwar al Awlaki, who was a spiritual leader at two mosques where three 9/11 hijackers worshipped, said American Muslims who condemned the Fort Hood attack are hypocrites who have committed treason against their religion.

    Awlaki said the only way a Muslim can justify serving in the U.S. military is if he intends to "follow in the footsteps of men like Nidal."

    "Nidal Hassan (sic) is a hero," Awlaki said. "He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people."
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