Lady raped after trying to defend herself with 22

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    Very sad that a person can think that simply owning a gun is sufficient protection without knowing that part of being protected is to become proficient with the use of that gun. In this case, the shotgun would have been a much better first choice had it been loaded!
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    "what exactly do you have to do to get charged with 1st degree rape?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brass63 View Post
    "what exactly do you have to do to get charged with 1st degree rape?"
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    I think for a first degree charge, the BG has to use a weapon, cause great bodily harm, or impregnate the victim.
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    North Carolina General Assembly - General Statutes - Chapter 14: Criminal Law.

    Found in the North Carolina General Statutes.

    14‑27.2. First‑degree rape.

    (a) A person is guilty of rape in the first degree if the person engages in vaginal intercourse:

    (1) With a victim who is a child under the age of 13 years and the defendant is at least 12 years old and is at least four years older than the victim; or

    (2) With another person by force and against the will of the other person, and:

    a. Employs or displays a dangerous or deadly weapon or an article which the other person reasonably believes to be a dangerous or deadly weapon; or

    b. Inflicts serious personal injury upon the victim or another person; or

    c. The person commits the offense aided and abetted by one or more other persons.

    (b) Any person who commits an offense defined in this section is guilty of a Class B1 felony.

    (c) Upon conviction, a person convicted under this section has no rights to custody of or rights of inheritance from any child born as a result of the commission of the rape, nor shall the person have any rights related to the child under Chapter 48 or Subchapter 1 of Chapter 7B of the General Statutes. (1979, c. 682, s. 1; 1979, 2nd Sess., c. 1316, s. 4; 1981, c. 63; c. 106, ss. 1, 2; c. 179, s. 14; 1983, c. 175, ss. 4, 10; c. 720, s. 4; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 22, s. 2; 2004‑128, s. 7.)
    From the article, it sounds like he was by himself and didn't use a weapon, so its not 1st degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    I don't believe they make factory SD ammo for a 22,since IMHO a 22 is not a SD weapon,too many people buy a gun load it and never fire it at a range or learn how to properly fire and clear a SA handgun in case of a jam,those people need to stick with a revolver and learn to shoot it,I not only sleep with a 1911 45 with 25 rounds available,but my HD Mossberg 930 SA shotgun is loaded with 6 rounds of 00 buck and all it needs is the safety snicked off and pull the trigger til threat has stopped.

    Yeah same with the 1911 45.

    I honestly know there really isnt any self defense ammo but then again she was probably using lightning brand 500 pk ammo her husband stuck her with.

    At least use some CCI Stinger or something??

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    Regardless of the weapons..... she was a fighter!! I have no doubt that she would hit him with a lamp if she could of grabbed one! LOL!!

    But as posted before...... prime example of why you run through scenarios, train, and practice....... No doubt if she would of practiced with the shotty by shucking a round every time she picked it up, she would of instinctively done it then and we would have a whole diff. story.......
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    I say use a big revolver. To me "JAM" is made out of fruit and is good on biscuits. "STOVEPIPE" is a piece of round metal pipe that runs from the stove to the chimney so smoke can exit. There are two kinds of auto loaders. Those that have malfunctioned and those that are going to malfunction. The per cent of revolvers malfunctioning is almost zero. Larry

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    For fun I bought the most inexpensive .22 I could get and then bought the cheapest walmart ammo. In my revolver 1 out of 10 shots do not fire but its just for plinking. I would never rely on this as a self defense gun. I wonder if she took the gun to the range much? I wonder if it was unreliable in practice?

    lessons learned:

    1) Don't open your door to strangers!

    2) Make sure your home protection shotgun is loaded!

    3) make sure your self defense pistol is reliable and has reliable ammo!

    4) Call 911 and then set the phone down so that you can manage your survival needs and 911 can stay on the line to track the call!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimtem View Post

    4) Call 911 and then set the phone down so that you can manage your survival needs and 911 can stay on the line to track the call!
    I worked in EMS for several years, so speaking from my experience... for a medical emergency, it is wise to stay on the line with 911. However, in a violent assault, one must realize that there is a time delay between the call for help coming in till the actual dispatch and response of proper assets for the given situation.

    Many times I have received an emergency call dispatch while using the restroom or standing in line (away from my vehicle) trying to get something to eat. I am sure that LEO's have encountered some similar situations which have increased their response times...when seconds count!

    If a person is by themselves in a critical situation and they are trying to stay on the phone talking with 911, they may not be able to properly devote all of their attention to the threat...I would personally just try to give my name, address and a quick overview of what is going on.

    Guess what I am trying to say is that sometimes, the time for talk is over, and immediate actions are required to protect yourself or your family.

    The telecommunicator isn't there with you in your situation, and they may not always give you the right advice..
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