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17 Year old kills 10 year old brother on purpose

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    Quote Originally Posted by HITCH KING View Post
    he had dreamed of killing someone since he was in eighth grade Is it pssible that kids are born that bad?
    Sure. Defective genes, chemical imbalances and other flaws show up in people all the time, and it can affect their ability to perceive, feel pain, logically follow through on thoughts, be inhibited, take to learning, and all the rest. We've all known people who are a bit "off" from normal. Some of it is learned, some of it is explained by these other factors. Some will just decide to be criminals by whatever internal forces they conjure up in themselves, due to bad burrito, "suffering" through the youth of a snarky younger brother, or whatever.

    None of which changes the apparent fact that he knew what he was doing, desired to do it, planned it, executed his brother and then admitted his role. If he's unwilling to take responsibility for it, he deserves his hour (or, hundreds of hours and tens of $thousands in money spent) in the "sun." May justice be served. He deserves whatever he has earned.
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    Does Ohio have the death penalty? If so I say give it this "kid" if hes grown up enough to take a life,least of all his own little brothers then I say hes man enough to receive an adult sentence. I've believed for a long time (I'm only 31) that people are inherently broken and there is a such thing as a bad seed or bad egg so to speak. I believe that some people are just born bad period its a case of nature not nurture. This is a real shame for the parents can't imagine what they are going through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Some people are born with a rotten heart.

    It never gets any better, it just continues rotting until the day that someone is killed.

    Sometimes, you can see it in their eyes.
    I agree. I often recall such people from my past and I'm confident that one or two are either in prison or dead.
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    Its a sad time.......
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    Here is what I think.

    I enjoy playing video games (COD). Every day I get on to play and I hear young kids (9-12 yrs) online playing a game that is meant for adults. It’s easy to see why some kids feel the need to kill another person. In the game I run around shooting, stabbing and blowing up other players, however I am old enough to distinguish the difference between a game and real life.

    When parents buy their children games that are not made for kids or let their kids watch movies that are not made for kids then that child’s mind (which hasn’t fully developed) has a little seed plated in it. I am not saying that every child that plays violent games or watches violent movies is going to kill someone but why risk it.

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    There must have been some sign that this kid wasn't right in the head. Too bad some one couldn't see this coming ahead of time to avoid a tragedy like this. I'm surprised the parents didn't didn't realize that something was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Some people are born with a rotten heart.

    It never gets any better, it just continues rotting until the day that someone is killed.

    Sometimes, you can see it in their eyes.
    We are ALL born with a rotten and sinful heart...it takes a Saviour, Jesus Christ, to change this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Some people are born with a rotten heart.

    It never gets any better, it just continues rotting until the day that someone is killed.

    Sometimes, you can see it in their eyes.
    No, you aren't born with it, you are raised into it. People who show no remorse in the taking of another life almost always have a past, typically during childhood, that explains why they have no conscience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangevol View Post
    We are ALL born with a rotten and sinful heart...it takes a Saviour, Jesus Christ, to change this.
    Wow - talk about a screwed up view of people. I still can't get over the fact that you pay for this info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Let's see, 17 + 65 = 82, nope...not long enough.
    And depending on his actions in prison it might be:

    17+65-22 (1/3 time off for good behavior)=60

    or if he gets day for a day

    17+65-32.5 years for good behavior= Out in 49.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Ng View Post
    No, you aren't born with it, you are raised into it. People who show no remorse in the taking of another life almost always have a past, typically during childhood, that explains why they have no conscience.
    We are all responsible for our behavior, No, you aren't born with it, and you are not raised into it. I'd say to many video games made this kid kill. And as far as conscience, put me in a room for 15 min with this punk and I'd have no conscence either. Course we would just talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Ng View Post
    Wow - talk about a screwed up view of people. I still can't get over the fact that you pay for this info.
    Billy, What do you mean, you pay for this info???
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    It's my opinion, that todays youth and youngsters are becoming more and more desensitized to their mortality and wear the "no fear of death" mentality like a medal for what ever reason. I do believe it has something to do with what they are seeing and playing on Video games and in the movies. There's way to much glamorizing death and mayhem in todays movies and games, and at todays level of high tech special effects the scale has been bumped up a notch or so, since I was a kid. I just think it's a recipe for disaster for some of the impressional youths out there who's parents are to busy to be there for their kids when it really counts. FWIW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
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    That's a tall order which I can't fill in a smal space. To help, I read thru all the reader reviews on the Amazon site, and copied a few of the salient ones which touch on the problem, and have sent them in a pm.
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