Kidnappers get Probation
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December 28, 2009 8:05 AM
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Two 19-year-old relatives each received 10 ...
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December 29th, 2009 10:21 AM
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Kidnappers get Probation
Teens guilty of kidnapping attorney receive probation
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December 28, 2009 8:05 AM
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Two 19-year-old relatives each received 10 year probationary sentences Dec. 21 for their role in the May abduction of an immigration attorney.
Edward and Juan Carlos Lerma pleaded guilty in November to kidnapping charges stemming from the May abduction of a lawyer with Texas RioGrande Legal Aid.
Prosecutors allege one of the victim’s teenage clients – an immigrant who was staying in her home at the time– helped the teens plot the attack. The boys took the client and the lawyer from her Weslaco home at gunpoint May 6 and drove them around for a few hours while trying to steal money from her bank account. Both were eventually released unharmed.
The client – Gregorio Ruiz – pleaded guilty to his role in the kidnapping plot on Dec. 14 and also received a 10 year probationary sentence.
These guys kidnap an attorney at gunpoint then try to rob her bank account at gunpoint and only get probation! Unbelievable
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December 29th, 2009 10:21 AM
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December 29th, 2009 10:27 AM
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About par for our current “catch and release” judicial system. I would rather see them making little rocks out of big ones.
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December 29th, 2009 10:32 AM
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Public defender kidnapped and robbed at gunpoint by her own client?
Can you say Karma?
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December 29th, 2009 10:34 AM
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December 29th, 2009 10:44 AM
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This sentence was handed down in TEXAS?????
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December 29th, 2009 10:56 AM
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We need to leave room for those hardened criminals. You know the ones. The CCW types who make a silly bureaucratic mistake. Those are the dangerous types that need to be taken off the street, don't you know.
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December 29th, 2009 10:58 AM
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Maybe next time they do a crime someone will fight back and we will read about the funeral arrangements for them.
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December 29th, 2009 03:27 PM
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But if I was spotted getting my gun out of the truck and putting it in my holster I would probably get time for "brandishing". 1)Kidnapping, 2)Illegal possession of a weapon (and probably stolen property), 3)armed robbery and the list goes on. Judge must have hated the immergration attorny.
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December 29th, 2009 04:00 PM
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Teens guilty of kidnapping attorney receive probation
Lack of backbone begets that great sucking sound as the bowl flushes the last vestiges of our greatness down the drain.
That lack comes from the "justice" system, which dispenses justice so infrequently that it is universally known, instead, as merely a legal system.
Pathetic. So utterly avoidable, the crimes these lying suits shove down the throats of the People. Avoidable, because so many tens of thousands of crimes could simply fail to exist if the felons were put away or eliminated when caught for their crimes. So simple.
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December 29th, 2009 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
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This sentence was handed down in TEXAS?????

That's my question to. What is up with THAT sentence?!?
Well..........maybe that lawer wasn't very well liked there?
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December 29th, 2009 07:32 PM
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A valuable lesson is learned: You CAN get away with it. The criminal has been emboldened and the victim has learned the uselessness of the state. Just more of the same engineered stupidity.
Back in the day the perp would have gotten what was coming to him and the victim would receive both justice and reparations. These days ... too many people are softening punishment who have no real-world experience. They read in a college textbook somewhere that punishment only perpetuates the cycle of violence so they think the criminal needs to be understood rather than chastened. Gimme a break.
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December 29th, 2009 07:55 PM
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It's South Texas, different world
Just joking folks, can't believe that sentenced happened in this State either.
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December 30th, 2009 11:22 AM
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I can't believe it either Kidnapping,Armed Robbery,etc and they get probation
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December 30th, 2009 03:34 PM
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I could see this in some states, but Texas! Must be more to the story.
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