BAD: Detroit CPL holder chases and kills intruder.

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    BAD: Detroit CPL holder chases and kills intruder.

    In Michigan you cannot chase someone down and shoot them.

    This guy will go to jail.

    That is too bad, I understand his frustration.

    After 3 break-ins, Detroit man calmly shoots, kills intruder, cops say | freep.com | Detroit Free Press
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    Yup, I understand it too, but sadly for him, his actions aren't excusable.

    I do give him some credit for his response to the 'what you gonna do, shoot me?" line... The bad guy obviously wasn't expecting such a pointed affirmative...

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    That stinks, they know as long as they can break in and run before you reach them, their free, what a law!
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    What an idiot!
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    When they break in...shoot 'em full of holes until the threat is stopped, but when they run away, ya' can't just chase 'em down...bad idea.
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    “What are you going to do?” Herbert Silas of Detroit reportedly asked, his hands still in the air. “Shoot me?”

    “Absolutely,” Croff told investigators he replied before pulling the trigger
    He was also dumb enough to incriminate himself in cold blood.

    This type of incident seems to come up fairly frequently. It nearly always turns out the same: chase BG into the street, kill BG, go to jail, do not pass go, and do not collect $200.

    Stay inside, doors locked, and call 911!
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    Dumb to talk to the popo. Put me on the jury. I know what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    When they break in...shoot 'em full of holes until the threat is stopped, but when they run away, ya' can't just chase 'em down...bad idea.
    Quote Originally Posted by nutz4utwo View Post
    He was also dumb enough to incriminate himself in cold blood.

    This type of incident seems to come up fairly frequently. It nearly always turns out the same: chase BG into the street, kill BG, go to jail, do not pass go, and do not collect $200.

    Stay inside, doors locked, and call 911!

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    Dumb to talk to the popo. Put me on the jury. I know what to do.

    This is going to be an interesting trial,,, I know what you are thinking;;; he s going to jail,,, but,,
    IF they have a good balance of his peers on this jury, they probably will NOT hang him out to dry.
    The people of Detroit are FED up with the thugs and a few corrupt police/politicians ruining the city. I personally think a change is on the horizon JMHO


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    While I can understand the frustration of the shooter, if I was on the jury, it'd be real hard for me to say "justifiable shooting".

    That being said, I would love to have seen the look on Herbert's face when the bullet hit.
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    This is why I have said time and again on many threads regarding any kind of self defense shooting, keep your big mouth shut until you have spoken to an attorney! No exceptions, no matter how friendly the cops may seem, they are not your friends! They are investigating a homicide, and anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you!

    As much as I support what this guy did, he is probably going to spend some serious time in prison for this.....
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    Very hard to say self defense when you chased the bad guy. Very dumb to tell cops he had hands up and asked what are you going to do shoot me and you replied absolutely and then you shot him.
    At this point about all he can plead to the jury mitigating circumstance of being broken into 3 times in prior week, so frustrated and upset, was tired of it and was protecting his property.
    Might get one or two sympathatic jurors

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    Illegal, but I am on the shooter's side.
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    Bad for the shooter, BUT... a couple of unshakeable facts are noteworthy.

    First - the shooter is still alive and the real bad guy is dead.

    Second - maybe, just maybe, the fact that a dirtbag was killed for a B+E will give others pause to think about the risks involved in that line of work.
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    Bad deal all the way around. I feel for the guy. A split second decision with adrenaline, frustration, and victim's vulnerability running through him and it will impact the rest of his and his family's lives. What a shame. A blast of pepper spray and a good old fashioned butt whoopin would have served him better...hindsight is always 20/20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BugDude View Post
    Bad deal all the way around. I feel for the guy. A split second decision with adrenaline, frustration, and victim's vulnerability running through him and it will impact the rest of his and his family's lives. What a shame. A blast of pepper spray and a good old fashioned butt whoopin would have served him better...hindsight is always 20/20.
    +1 bad move shooting the BG, wasn't justified IMO, doesn't do much in helping further the pro-ccing cause.

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